Is Fermented Cod Liver Oil Safe or Rancid?

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I’ve written in depth before about the supplements I personally take, which for a long time included fermented cod liver oil.

If you follow many bloggers in the natural health community, you’ve probably seen the recent drama about the potential quality issues with fermented cod liver oil. I delve into this in depth below but the summary of my personal current opinion on the issue is that:

  1. There is conflicting evidence on the safety of fermented cod liver oil (and more recently even on the safety of any omega-3 supplements) that warrant more research.
  2. Health and nutrition continue to become more and more personalized so what works for me is not likely to work for you and vice versa.
  3. I personally am focusing on getting all nutrients from food whenever possible and with rare exception and am sticking to foods like sardines and other low-mercury fish in place of supplements.

It is important to note that this is strictly my personal opinion and is in no way close to medical advice (nor is any information on this website). As always, I encourage you to do your own research and due diligence on any health related decisions.

FCLO Drama…

Fermented Cod Liver Oil is considered a traditional food that has been recommended by the Weston A. Price Foundation and many real food bloggers (including me) for years. It was even the WAPF recommended brand for use in homemade infant formula and many members take it religiously.

On August 21, 2015, Weston A. Price Foundation Vice President Dr. Kaayla Daniel released a 100+ page report detailing the results of independent lab tests that she had on samples of Green Pastures Fermented Cod Liver Oil and that alleged major issues with the brand, including rancidity, lower levels of nutrients than were claimed, and sourcing issues.

Dr. Daniel’s report claims that FCLO is not actually fermented, is rancid, putrid, and adulterated with other (cheaper) oils. It also alleges that there are lower levels of fat soluble nutrients in FCLO than claimed and that the oil isn’t even from cod. Serious claims from a well-respected person in the real food community.

Understandably, this has left many people in the real food community reeling and looking for answers. I’ve gotten many emails, comments, and social media messages in the last few days asking what my take on the subject is, and have spent a lot of time researching this myself.

Below is my personal opinion and research on this issue based on the information available right now. I will continue to update this post as more information is revealed.

My hope is that no matter the outcome of further research and study about fermented cod liver oil, the real food community will take this as a lesson in the importance of verifying the quality of supplements and use this as an opportunity to improve the real food movement, rather than to divide the community.

Is Fermented Cod Liver Oil Safe or Rancid?

In short… I don’t know.

Based on the information available from both sides, I don’t think it is possible for anyone (short of Green Pastures, the company producing the fermented cod liver oil in question) to know the answers to all of the questions that many people are asking right now. At the same time, there are some holes in the report from Dr. Daniels and some potential financial ties that have come to light that call her motivation into question.

When our family first started taking fermented cod liver oil years ago, I did a lot of research on the company and on cod liver oil in general (as anyone should do before taking fat soluble vitamins regularly). The only lab reports I was able to find at the time were from Green Pastures and they showed no rancidity in the fermented cod liver oil and verified that FCLO did contain the fat soluble vitamins it was known for.

The recent report from Dr. Daniel calls these tests into question. Her results have the lab company and the party funding the test blurred out, which is somewhat suspect, though I do not think that this necessarily discredits the information in the reports. The report does, however, make some assertions about certain compounds being harmful as a justification for why FCLO is not safe, and some of these claims are not backed by existing science (or are at least controversial).

In the last six months or so, I’ve actually been researching and testing different forms of cod liver oil after readers have inquired about different brands and reported issues they’ve had with FCLO.

My Experience

Our family has seen benefits from taking fermented cod liver oil over the years, including reversal of tooth decay. I’ve also noticed that my skin is naturally more sun tolerant since taking FCLO, probably from the fat soluble vitamins it contains.

At the same time, there is the possibility that the quality of Green Pastures FCLO has changed since I researched it years ago, or that more recent lab testing has been able to reveal problems that were undetectable years ago.

Fermented Cod Liver Oil: The Claims

FCLO is Not Fermented:

There may be some truth to this claim. I’ve talked before about the importance of fermented foods for health, and why the naturally created beneficial bacteria in fermented foods are so important.

The red flag that Daniels explains is that oil cannot ferment. The process of fermentation requires the presence of a carbohydrate as the food for the fermentation process. Many people (including me) assumed that an unnamed carbohydrate was used for the fermentation process but was removed by the process so it was not listed on the ingredients or that the livers themselves were fermented and not the oil (as an oil can’t ferment without another ingredient).

Green Pastures owner Dave Wetzel has been less than transparent about this fermentation process, though supposedly he has brought several WAPF members and high profile bloggers to his facility to see the process and verify its quality. (I have never been to the facility and have no firsthand knowledge of this process, so I have to rely on Dave’s explanation of his process).

This is one area that I hope we see more detail on from Green Pastures and from independent sources in the future. For now, the debate about the process used and what part of the process actually requires fermentation does not necessarily mean that the final product is not high quality, but it does raise some interesting questions to explore.

FCLO is Rancid:

Fats and oils cannot ferment without carbohydrates, so what happens when they are exposed to the conditions of fermentation? In short, they go rancid.

This is the basis for the claims in the new report. The independent lab results from Dr. Daniel show several biomarkers of rancidity in the samples tested (these were not present in the reports I found in my initial research).

In Daniel’s tests, peroxide, free fatty acids and other biomarkers of rancidity were found. I was unable to find clear answers directly from Green Pastures, though I found several older articles and interviews in which Dave states that his product does not contain these biomarkers or that the substances are not harmful. Again, more research is needed from independent sources on this.

Low Levels of Vitamins:

Another claim in the reports is that FCLO contains less fat soluble vitamins than claimed and that the Vitamin D is in the form of D2 and not D3.

The common consensus among medical experts is that D3 is the preferred form, though Green Pastures claims that D2 is equally safe and effective. To be fair, all forms of cod liver oil contain higher levels of D2 and this does not necessarily raise a red flag, but again, more research is needed.

Also, Green Pastures has never made claims, to my knowledge, about the levels of nutrients in their products, carefully explaining that they are a food product and that levels can change.

Not Actually Cod:

The report further claimed that the DNA tests on Green Pastures products showed that the livers used were from Alaskan Polluck, not cod. This seems to be partially an issue of understanding of fish species and families, since:

The Alaska pollock or walleye pollock (Gadus chalcogrammus, formerly Theragra chalcogramma) is a marine fish species of the cod family Gadidae. Alaska pollock is a semipelagic schooling fish widely distributed in the North Pacific with largest concentrations found in the eastern Bering Sea.

After hours of research, I could not find any definitive answer directly from Green Pastures about the origin or species of the fish they use. The closest I could find was Dave’s vague answer from his own FAQs:

Ok, The question arises on the topic of location of the fish. The fish school in the northern, cold waters around the Arctic Ocean. They do not have a nationality and a fish can school for a 1000+ miles in its life. So the relevance of the specific spot the fish is cleaned is not relevant to the discussion, ‘is the fish safe to consume’.

Red Flags from the Report

While Kaayla’s report certainly raises some concerns about FCLO, it also raises some concerns about its own validity. For instance:

  • The labs used for the testing and who paid for the independent testing is not disclosed. This isn’t necessarily a red flag on its own, but given the rumored history of drama within the WAPF organization, I think it deserves further investigation. Given how much heated press this report has generated, I can certainly understand the potential desire of a donor to remain anonymous in the report,  but it does raise a red flag.
  • Though I have no firsthand experience with any of the board members of WAPF, including Sally Fallon or Dr. Daniel, reports of internal drama run rampant in the real food community. In fact, I avoided joining the WAPF for years partially because of these claims. We have not heard an official response from WAPF or Green Pastures yet, and I think that thoroughly evaluating both sides will be an important step for any of us looking to understand the long term validity of these claims.
  • The one funding source that Kaayla mentions in the report, Dr. Ron Schmid ND, has a long and somewhat dramatic history with FCLO. He reportedly took (really large doses- above the recommended amount) of regular cod liver oil and then fermented cod liver oil for decades and attributes them to his severe heart disease. He has also stated publicly that he attributes his miraculous recovery from heart disease with discontinuing taking FCLO. Not exactly an unbiased source. Again, this does not discredit the information, but does raise some additional questions.
  • While Daniels lists sources for many of her claims, she doesn’t list her sources for many of her quotes. In fact, while she says she talked to many experts (including “top university professors, scientists, researchers, lab managers, doctors and other health care practitioners”), these sources are unnamed for many of her more serious allegations. Obviously, these claims would carry much more weight if they were substantiated and sourced.
  • It also raised a red flag for me that Daniel has a call to action for her own services in the report, saying: “Finally, if you think you have health challenges related to FCLO consumption, share your story with friends, colleagues . . . and me. If you think you’ve been harmed, I would like to offer you a FREE mini appointment by phone or face-to- face on Skype. To share your story or to make your appointment, contact me at ***********@earthlink.net.” I can understand her desire to help others if she truly feels that FCLO is harmful, but a report making these allegations does not seem like the appropriate place to make this offer. Again, not a reason to discredit the report, but a red flag.
  • Emerging information has also revealed some potential political ties from the new organization Dr. Daniels founded after leaving/being forced out of WAPF and the makers of the Extra Virgin Cod Liver Oil product she recommends. In other words, the company she recommends as an alternative to FCLO is a sponsor of her new organization so she may have a bias here. Additionally, there is a lot of information floating around about potential conflict within the old organization hierarchy of WAPF that suggests there may be much more to the story on both sides.

The Bottom Line

Based on the available information at this time, it is extremely difficult or impossible to draw a definitive conclusion on the issue of the quality of Green Pastures FCLO or other CLO products. I think that this whole “scandal” is a symptom of a much bigger problem- the mud slinging between competing companies and emerging attacks on both sides of the fence.

The report brings up some serious points and hints at some possible misleading information from Green Pastures over the years. As a mom who has given FCLO to my own family for years and seen good enough results to share my experience with you, I am extremely angry and disappointed in Green Pastures if any of these claims turn out to be true. At the same time, there are some serious holes in the Dr. Daniel’s report and the potential financial ties to the new company bring up more questions.

I think more research and disclosure is needed from both parties, and like I said, I hope that all of us in the real food community will use this as an opportunity to improve, learn more, and get to the truth, and not as an excuse to argue and divide.

At the end of the day, I have to hope and trust until I see evidence to the contrary that both the founders of Green Pastures and Dr. Daniel are interested in health and serving their communities and continue to evaluate any information as objectively as possible.

At the same time, I don’t think either side is unbiased.

Green Pastures, of course, derives a profit from the sale of their FCLO. Dr Daniel has a rumored history of contention with different parties within WAPF and with Green Pastures as well as potential financial ties to the new EVCLO company. Again, none of these are relevant to the validity of the data in the reports or even necessarily to the motivation of either party, but they do provide a possible motivation for slanting information one way or the other.

At the end of the day, things are rarely what they seem on the surface and my guess is that we will continue to find more from both sides of this story.

What Our Family is Doing

As I mentioned, after many reader questions, I have been researching FCLO and alternative cod liver oil sources for months.

Since there is so much conflicting information on the issue right now, please share any information or research you’ve found in the comments below. Has your opinion of FCLO changed as a result of this report?

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About Katie Wells

Katie Wells, CTNC, MCHC, Founder of Wellness Mama and Co-founder of Wellnesse, has a background in research, journalism, and nutrition. As a mom of six, she turned to research and took health into her own hands to find answers to her health problems. WellnessMama.com is the culmination of her thousands of hours of research and all posts are medically reviewed and verified by the Wellness Mama research team. Katie is also the author of the bestselling books The Wellness Mama Cookbook and The Wellness Mama 5-Step Lifestyle Detox.

Comments

329 responses to “Is Fermented Cod Liver Oil Safe or Rancid?”

  1. YeJa Avatar

    Hi any new recommendations for a decent cod liver oil please

  2. Danielle sears Avatar
    Danielle sears

    Are there any updates since you posted this!? We relied on GP nearly ten years ago and saw reversal of cavities. We also had a WAPF type diet easily via living in a farm! We aren’t on that farm and I want to supplement bone health.

  3. Marcy Avatar

    Im coming to this post in 2022 with the same question. If someone with enough know-how was willing to coordinate, I would be willing to donate money to test these products using mulitple independent labs. It would be good to know the truth and not just rely on these organizations or corporations to be honest or do it for us.

  4. Natalie Silva Avatar
    Natalie Silva

    Hi, I was wondering if you have made any updated articles on this. It seems you had stopped taking the FLCO because you weren’t sure if these claims were true so I was just wondering if anything else came of this? My mother in law has been taking it for years and she has beautiful skin. I was going to order some and then noticed google suggested a search of “green pastures fermented cod liver oil controversy.” I found your article, but haven’t really seen anything else that is more recent. I was looking forward to getting started on these so any insight would be helpful. Thanks so much!

    1. Jamie Larrison Avatar

      Katie recommends Rosita’s brand of virgin cod liver oil to help with cavities. Otherwise she eats fatty fish for Omega 3s and sometimes uses fish oil.

  5. michael Avatar

    what about algae oil? which is where the fish get their oil anyway?

    1. jim crabb Avatar
      jim crabb

      most fish get it from eating other fish and crustaceans, i think it’s pretty uncommon for them to get it directly from algea, oils derived from algea are not as complete as fish oils, though they contain long chain omega 3’s they are not the same, and it’s not yet known if algea oil is a sufficient replacement, as far as i know.

  6. Robien Hali Avatar
    Robien Hali

    It’s hard making decisions for your kids! I bought 2 products from Green Pasture the other day (I totally forgot about this whole drama). Then I remembered this story and now I have my doubts about them… I think they’re ok though. But I am not sure if I want to buy these kinds of supplements in the future. It’s just that my natural doctor (someone I trust) has seen big differences with kids who took them and kids who didn’t…. Mmmh time to let my intuition speak, after all the research without a clear answer?

  7. Kendra Avatar

    Katie – I’ve got cavities I need to heal. Do you recommend I take a fish oil and if so what kind? SInce it appears this FCLO from this company I is a no go. Or besides diet what supplements do you now think are important for cavities??

      1. Kendra Avatar

        Katie im specifically wondering in your opinion, about whether FCLO is necessary for teeth healing? It seems like with all the reading I’ve done, that it is. Or is there a safe replacement for it since the green pastures has become controversial? Another safer brand or alternative supplement?

    1. Katie Wells Avatar

      I typically try to consume a lot of sustainably sourced and low mercury fish and sometimes add fish oil as needed, but the research on any fish oil is very divided and controversial at this point.

  8. Sally Avatar

    I’m a WAPF chapter leader since 2010. However, I’m not a scientist and simply could not follow all the science in the WAPF and Daniel’s reports.

    When all was said and done, I based my choice on who I trust more and that is WAPF. (And the WAPF and I have a serious disagreement on cannabis so it’s not like I blindly agree with all it says.) I thought Kaayla’s handling of the matter was suspect from the beginning.

    Today, I am in the process of ordering more FCLO/BO to stock up before winter. My whole family takes it including my 3yo grand daughter (she loves it).

    Green Pastures is still in business and I personally know some very smart people — a couple are actually scientists — who are still taking it. I’m good 🙂

    1. Gabby Avatar

      I cannot believe the WAPF article on cannabis “Speak Out Against Marijuana Legalization”. It’s the most non-scientific, delusional article I’ve ever read about cannabis. It’s bizarre that they would take that stance on a plant that provides therapeutic benefits to hundreds of thousands of people, given who they are as an organization. Not to mention the mountains of research that supports the beneficial use of cannabis. I’m simply blown away that they published that article.

  9. Bex Avatar

    Are there any updates on this concern now here in 2019? My husband and I are trying to conceive and I was just altered to concerns about using FCLO!

  10. Douglas Avatar
    Douglas

    I think we have to wake up to the reality that disease is profitable and big corporations routinely send operatives into organizations like WAPF in order to blow them up from the inside. They also make fake health organizations so they can use them to advertise their nutrition companies, profiting from both sides. Which means unfortunately that noone is above suspicion.

    Green Pastures CLO/BO completely healed my teeth a few years ago (even filling up a large cavity), and has eased my tooth pain in recent months after a few years of not taking any, but the healing is slower than I remember. Maybe I still need to adjust my diet, but even if the quality has gone down since a few years ago I hope it’s still good enough to do the job.

  11. Mary Avatar

    I extremely appreciate your update on this topic. I’ve known the issue on both sides, this review article provides much greater detail. I have taken FMCO in years past. I stopped after not finding definitive answers and what happened with Dr. Ron Schmid.

  12. Laura Avatar

    This is all very upsetting for a few reasons. 1. I also healed my son’s tooth abscess/ tooth decay following a similar protocol to yours. 2. I expected that OUR health community (the holistic, nutrient dense, naturally-healing, “aware” community) would be a place where DRAMA and crap like this doesn’t happen. 3. I live in the NW, in a very cloudy valley, and really need good reliable products to combat the vitamin deficiencies.

    I hope you find a solution or product soon and post about it!

  13. Lulu Avatar

    I never touched the stuff because it sounded like a dangerous idea from the get-go especially with ONE company in the whole world producing it. At this point, I’m wary about ingesting a bunch of supplements in pursuit of good health, the body is such a balanced ecosystem and I honestly believe taking so many concentrated supplements does more harm than good in the long run especially to children.

  14. chelsea Avatar

    From my understanding, the livers are fermented which in turn naturally extracts the oil.

  15. Natasha Avatar

    Just as Cindy noted above, I just read an article about WAPF members and relatives dying early and of cancers. Could there be a link to FCLO as the author suggests? For those giving it to your little ones, you want to reconsider.

  16. Cindy Avatar

    Hi I have read several articles in the last day or so about 9 people very connected to FCLO dying recently. So I am very concerned and wondering if Weston Price has changed their recommendations on taking it? Have you changed your mind on it?

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