132: Lane Kennedy on How to Use CBD for Sleep, Hormones, & Health

The Wellness Mama Podcast

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I am here today with Lane Kennedy, a truly inspiring mom, female entrepreneur, and health coach with an awesome story. This interview is going to dispel some myths and controversy around one of the most requested podcast topics, which is what CBD or cannabidiol is all about.

If it sound familiar, yes, it is related to cannabis (marijuana), but there are some compelling reasons to look past the controversy and into the science-backed medical benefits. Promise!

Why Cannibidiol (CBD) Isn’t What You Think It Is …

First let me tell you that Lane is actually one of the original Bulletproof coaches, meaning she’s been through Dave Asprey’s certification program that helps you learn how to teach others to optimize their own biology for the best possible health. Since Lane has had to conquer her own health problems and chronic pain (with the help of cannibidiol), she’s the perfect advocate for women who are struggling or stressed and looking for solutions.

Some other interesting facts about Lane I just have to mention: she slept on a wooden pillow for a while, she’s given birth at home like I have, and she’s been in long-term recovery for more than 20 years. She also struggled with infertility for years as well. I know she has a lot to share with us, and I can’t wait to jump in!

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Katie: Hello, and welcome to the “Healthy Moms Podcast.” I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com. And I am here today with Lane Kennedy, who has an awesome story, and it’s gonna dispel some myths on one of the most requested podcast topics on Facebook, which is CBD or Cannabidiol, I’m gonna have to get used to that word, and the differences and the similarities. So Lane is a biohacker and wellness coach. She was actually one of the first bulletproof coaches, and now there are many of them, which is awesome, and she has been coaching women for years, especially about MBSR, which is Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction. And so her whole focus is helping women gain balance and stress relief. And some interesting facts about her, she slept on a wooden pillow without complaint, she’s given birth at home like I have, and she’s been in long-term recovery for more than 20 years. So welcome, Lane, thanks for being here. I can’t wait to jump in.

Lane: I am so happy to be here. Thanks, Katie, for having me.

Katie: Absolutely. And I think to start, it would be really awesome to hear your story, like what are you in recovery for? And what was your journey there?

Lane: Well, I was broken. That’s how we can start. I modeled for many years. So I come from the fashion industry. And in that industry, you tend to live very fast, and you tend to break down very quickly, and that’s what happened to me, you know? I lived a very fast life with drugs and alcohol, and I came to a bottom back in 1996. So it’s been quite a while between a vodka tonic, let’s just say, or a glass of red wine. And now, I’m completely happy and free, and I’m not breaking down like I used to. So that was the beginning of my story.

And what happened in my early recovery, and this is relevant to this story is that, I thought because I gave up drugs and alcohol that my life would become…I would become super happy, and my body would function properly. And what ended up happening is that about two years into my recovery, my body actually started breaking down even more. And the doctors didn’t know what was wrong with me. I went to all these great doctors in Beverly Hills and paid top dollar, and they just looked at me like I was some anomaly.

And finally, I worked with a doctor, and they did this blood test with me. And at the time, you have to remember, you know, 20 years ago, 22, 21 years ago, a lot of the illnesses that are present today, they didn’t know, you know? They were just coming off of like AIDS, right? Like, anybody with any kind of chronic conditions was automatically categorized or questioned to have AIDS. And so that’s what they did with me. And they stamped that on my blood certificate, and I was horrified. And I said, “What do you mean, I have AIDS?” And they said, “No. Actually, you just have Autoimmune Deficiency Syndrome,” which put me into the camp of, “We don’t really know what’s wrong with you, but your immune system is wiped out.”

And so I couldn’t get up my stairs. My bones ached, my joints ached, my hair started falling out, my skin was yellow. And it was really…I mean, you know, when you’re living like I lived, at the height of my career, I had everything at my hands, you know, beck-and-call. And then I, physically, couldn’t cook my dinner anymore. And I was fortunate enough to have a very dear friend who started seeing, back then, what is now today, a functional doctor. Back then, this person was just some weird doctor who did a lot of “Herbal supplements and special protocols,” because there were like colonics involved and drinking olive oil.

And all these, you know, methods that regular society, the norm, frowned upon. But what he introduced to me was my wellness path, and I got well. Within six weeks, I was no longer aching, I was no longer on my floor crying every day. I was actually up, and able to cook, and get up and down my stairs and I followed his protocol. But his protocol involved about 150 supplements every day and eating a lot of green vegetables every day.

And, you know, I was young. I was like, “I can’t do this every day, you know.” And I started traveling the world, and I kind of fell off of that protocol. And my body was well enough to get by, you know, it was strong enough to thrive, and I was smart enough to start studying. So my studying, the human body and the immune system, really started, you know, 15, 20 years ago when I started this wellness journey.

And I’m gonna fast forward a little bit to when I had my son, almost eight years ago. And, you know, I went into the doctor because I’ve always had hormonal fluctuations and a lack of a cycle, or too much of a cycle. And so I actually went on bioidentical hormones about 15 years ago. And at that time, the doctor also told me that I would never be able to conceive a child, that I didn’t have, you know, it would never happen, that my uterus wasn’t strong enough, and just wasn’t gonna happen.

And so I was like, “Fine, yeah, hey, I’m not gonna be a mom. I can do other things. I can be of service. I can, you know, travel the world. I can help other people.” And what ended up happening is that I started seeing this functional medicine doctor here, up in…I live up in San Francisco. And she put me on a different protocol. And lo and behold, I now have a healthy baby, you know, an eight-year-old, almost, can’t believe it.

And, you know, I don’t know about you, Katie, but I practice attached parenting, I know that you’re a strong mom, and you’re into your kids. And they take…I mean he’s taken everything from me because I’m so attached to being a mom because I was told that I wasn’t gonna be a mom. And as that happened, my body started to break down again. And it was very similar to how it was 20 years ago. My bones started aching, my hair started falling out, my mood was like depression hit really hard. And there were days when I couldn’t get out of bed. It was just horrible.

And I felt like…I also had a dental chair accident where I herniated two disc in my neck, and I ended up going to physical therapy for about 9 months, 10 months. And then they said, “We can’t do anything more for you.” And I just kind of surrendered to “This is my life. I’m gonna live in pain. I’m gonna do the best I can.” And it was really…I mean, here I am, a health and wellness coach, and I primarily, you know, help other health professionals. And here I am, you know, just totally broken, doing the best I can, you know. I’m super bulletproof, I eat mostly plants, I drink all the water, I do my green smoothies, you know, I do everything, but I was still broken.

And lo and behold, I was doing an event with Nicole Keating of the Epic Wellness. And she saw that I was in pain. And she said, “You know, Lane, I have this stuff. I have this little bottle of oil, and I think it’s gonna help you.” And I said, “What is it?” At this point, I’m desperate. And she says, “It’s hemp.” And I said, “No. Not interested, not interested at all.” And she just looked at me, she said, “Okay. Well, I’m just gonna leave this for your husband, maybe he needs it for his sleep.” And I said, “Okay, that’s fine. You can just leave it, I’ll leave it on the counter.”

I woke up the next morning with this excruciating, knife…it’s like a…I used to call it the ice pick. So I have this ice-pick pain in my back that would radiate down into my elbows. And I can kind of equate it to what I hear about fibromyalgia pain or this arthritic pain that happens, and I would get it in my back stabbing. And I woke up that morning, and I was so desperate that I put my finger into the little container that she left me, and I put it on, topically, because I didn’t want to jeopardize my recovery, you know? I have 20 years of living in this long-term sobriety, and I don’t wanna have anything get in the way of that.

And so I put it on, topically, and I had an immediate effect. It totally blew my mind. And I called Nicole, and I said, “What is this?” She says, “It’s hemp.” And I said, “Well, I don’t have the pain. I don’t have ice-pick pain anymore.” And she said, “Really?” I said, “Yeah.” And I said, “Well, can I take it internally?” And she goes, “Yeah, you can, it’s a supplement.” And I said, “But you know what? I’m gonna just check in with my doctor,” because I don’t know what I’m doing and I, you know, my brain was like too much information, I don’t know what to do.

And so I put a call in to my doctor. My doctor said, “Yes, it’s a supplement, CBD. The science on it is amazing. You’re a biohacker. Do the research.” So I was happy to jump on to Google and start investigating what CBD is, and what it’s not. And I ended up taking the CBD internally, and I’ve been pain-free since then. And for me, to have such a profound experience, I can’t believe, Katie, I can’t believe that I lived. Like I had surrendered to that pain, and that I had just agreed to, like, living that way, of being in that depressed state.

I wasn’t really showing up for my child as much as I wanted to. I was really kind of a B-I-T-C-H with my husband, short-tempered, you know. That kind of pain and that kind of depression just takes you down or took me down. And when I took the hemp oil and had such a profound experience, I had to learn about it, and I have to feel like I am compelled now to share about it because it’s so powerful. Yeah. Is that good? Is that enough of my story?

Katie: Yeah. That’s absolutely perfect. And I think your first reaction to it about not being interested, it brings up an interesting point, which is the one that I get the most. The question’s about is, what is it? Is it different than cannabis? Is it different than weed? And so I’d love for you to delve into the difference between cannabidiol or CBD, and how that is different from cannabis. And from my understanding, at least, there’s CBD and there’s THC, which is tetrahydrocannabinol, and they’re completely different substances. And from what I understand, THC is the psychoactive one and CBD is not, is that correct?

Lane: Correct.

Katie: Okay. So what is CBD? It’s isolated from hemp, but what is it, like, chemically, how is it impacting the body? That’s amazing, that you had such a drastic and immediate difference, but what do you know of the mechanism by how it’s affecting the body?

Lane: Yes, let’s get into it.

Katie: Awesome.

Lane: So I’m just gonna preface with, you know, anybody can look this stuff up, right? Like I am just a biohacker, really on a mission to learn more about this, but this information is out there for all of us to learn about. And what I’ve done is I’ve gone so deep within it because of the profound experience. And you’re right, Katie, there’s a hemp plant, let’s just start there. There’s a hemp plant and there’s a marijuana plant. How about that?

And the way that we can differentiate the two is by a functional measure, which means they actually can extract the components of the plant, the cannabidiols and they’re the cannabinoids, and there’s about 113 of these little cannabinoids. And the marijuana plant will have THC in it. Therefore, it will be stamped marijuana or, you know, medical cannabis. And hemp plants will not have the THC, or they will have under .03%, which is miniscule amount. So the THC is very useful for some people in some situations. so it’s not a bad part of the plant. But if you’re strictly looking for the cannabidiol, you’re gonna go with a hemp oil. Does that make sense?

Katie: Yeah, that does. So I think that’s a kind of a common misconception. And people kind of like lump it all in together, and assume it’s marijuana and avoid it. But that’s, I think, the interesting point. And to that note, CBD, is that legal in the U.S. as far as you know?

Lane: Yes. So CBD is completely legal, completely 100% legal. No problems. You can travel with it, you can give it to your kid. I mean, there is nothing…there are no psychoactive properties to it, you know? Like, that was one of my biggest concerns, right? It’s like I’m gonna end up down in my husband’s wine cellar, right? Like no, or like forgetting my kid somewhere. So for me, that was such a big, important factor. Like no THC, no psychoactive property, and having it be completely legal, very important.

Katie: Yeah. And from what I’ve seen, you’re right, the research is really astounding in all the different ways it’s being used. But can you kind of go into some of those? Like, what are some of the ways we’re seeing clinical use of this, or people just even taking it at home in a biohacking-type way.

Lane: People are taking it all different ways. So I know that there are so many case studies out there and anecdotal evidence about this product working. I mean you can go on Google or YouTube and find hundreds of stories of how CBD is working. The cannabidiol, you know, it works on this endocannabinoid system that we all have, the system is amazing. And there are two receptors that it’s working on. So there’s the CB1 receptor and the CB2 receptor.

And the CB1 receptor, right, is in your brain, in the peripheral nervous system. The CB2, we’re gonna be dealing with our immune system. And, you know, when you think about what’s happening in the body is that you can take in the phytocannabinoid diol. And the CB1 and CB2 receptors, in our body, in this fantastic endocannabinoid system, is looking for that cannabinoid, it’s looking for that little molecule. It’s like a lock and key. So we have these receptors, and they’re like, “Where’s the other part? I need to be happy.”

And so when we ingest the phytocannabinoid diol, the hemp oil, those CB1 and CB2 receptors are happy, right? So, when we hear a situation like a migraine headache, or PMS, PMS is huge, depression, we know that that is a breakdown of the endocannabinoid system, and it’s because that system is weak. It’s been weakened by our diet, by the stress of our society, just our lifestyle choices.

So when we’re taking the cannabidiol, the phytocannabidoil, again, I just wanna express how that system changes because that system is this: a network within us that…How do I wanna say this? It is just as important as the immune system, as the endocrine system. It is monitoring the body. It’s trying to bring it back into homeostasis all the time is endocannabinoid system. So when the cannabinoids are happy, you know, they have that lock and key, the CB1 and CB2 receptors are locked in, then that system is working properly.

So people are using it, you know, for, there’s so many things that people are using it for. Children are using it for AD…what’s that? ADD and ADHD, people are using it for addiction, people are using it for ALS, people are using it for Alzheimer, anxiety, arthritis, any kind of epilepsy, right? So all of these systems in the body that start to break down, when they break down, there is a result, right. When the microbiome is disrupted, right, you have gastrointestinal disorders, like Crohn’s disease or colitis, right? So when we balance out the endocannabinoid system, those gastrointestinal disorders calm down because that endocannabinoid system is, again, it’s bringing the body back into homeostasis. Does that make sense?

Katie: That doesn’t make sense. So I mean, I’ve been studying natural health for a long time and alternative therapies. And this, I feel like still isn’t talked about very much. Like, why do you think that is? Why is this so still obscure when there’s so much research on it?

Lane: Yeah. Well, let me tell you. I mean, 95% of Americans have never heard of this endocannabinoid system, you know, neither has a doctor. And I mean, it’s really, you have to think about our society, right? We have locked down marijuana as, you know, what is it? A Type I drug, right? Schedule I drug. So we can’t really get our hands on it to do much research. There is a lot of government officials, you know, that are against marijuana and cannabis. They don’t want it to be in the hands of doctors. So they put up a lot of roadblocks to have tests.

I was reading about one San Francisco oncologist, actually, trying to do get a test approved, you know, so he could start getting some research. And he started this in ’96, then it got road blocked. He had to redefine his test then it got roadblocked again. We were up to ’98, then it got roadblocked again. Now, he’s in the 2000. It took him eight years to get approved on one study, eight years. Do you know how many people die after eight years, right? So it’s a big issue of the National Institute of Health Organization that the drug agency, they don’t want to be generous with a substance that is still a Schedule I drug, even with all of the facts, even with all of the data that they have right now, it’s crazy, it’s crazy.

Katie: That is crazy. Especially because, I mean, there actually is legitimate research on marijuana itself and even THC in certain medical cases. Do you think that’s just like a societal stigma? Do you think that’ll eventually change, or what do you see as the future there?

Lane: Yeah. I think with CBD, there is going to be change because people are getting well, people are changing. Like I’m one of these people, right, that was broken and miserable, and now I’m like this is available to all of us, right? So I think it has to be in the hands of the people. And if there’s a loud enough kind of voice, we will get acknowledgement. We will get the studies. It may take another 10 years, which is super, super sad, but I think people will come around, I think people will come around.

There’s the Raphael Mechoulam, he was the Israeli Organic Chemist out of Hebrew University. And he really talks about, you know, this is his life work. I mean, he’s the one that kind of discovered THC back in 1930-something. And, you know, it’s been years of him watching the power of this plant. And he just perseveres because he trust the process. Like, he knows how powerful this plant ally is. And he just keeps on working towards it. Even though he’s had so many challenges and obstacles himself, you know? It’s just nuts.

It’s crazy to think about that, you know, opium or morphine came from opium, like 160 years ago. And, you know, we have this Vicodin, we had this opium, right? And then cocaine came from the extract of coca leaves in the late or mid-1800s. But there’s been this research around cannabis is just untouched. It’s like this big, black box that everybody’s just looking at. It’s so interesting to me as just somebody looking into it. And if I were a chemist or a scientist, I would be on fire. I’d be so…I’d be crazy. But I just, you know, I just keep thinking and rooting for them that the roadblocks will slowly fall down. Especially now that, you know, Obama passed that Farm Bill, people can now grow it, and it’s becoming more, I don’t know, more mainstream as time passes.

Katie: Yeah. Well I think your story even illustrates like some of those societal misconceptions. How your first reaction was, “No way,” because that is a common assumption, and it’s gnna take education. And that’s part of the reason I was excited to have you on today, is to kind of dispel those myths and explain that there is a very big difference, and that CBD itself is legal. And as far as I know, it can even be used, you know, pregnant nursing moms or children, there’s all these uses. So I’d love to go into that because I know I’m gonna get the questions. A lot of the people listening are moms, and a lot of them are pregnant. So let’s talk about that. How can moms and women use CBD, specifically? And then also a follow-up, how can children use it?

Lane: Okay. So moms and women can use it every day. I use it every day. I have my clients using it every day. It’s a supplement. And they can use it for…again, CBD supports a healthy mood, right? It helped…because we’re working with that endocannabinoid system that’s always trying to bring us back into balance away from the fight-or-flight, we’re trying to drop into our parasympathetic nervous system, we’re trying to…it will help with anybody who is, you know, anxious, anxiety. It will restore us to being calmer, you know, in traffic. Think about when you’re in traffic, you’re like, “Oh my gosh,” right?

So moms can use it for bringing down that edge. They can also use it for immune conditions, right, because it’s gonna boost our immune system, because it’s going to attach to that CB2 receptor, which is predominantly happening through the midline of our body and into the microbiome. It’s going to help with any kind of arthritis, right? Any kind of achiness because, again, it’s helping the entire system. So I think, you know, I really believe strongly that women and moms, you know, we’re so…I mean, we do everything, let’s just face it. We’re go-getters, we’re gonna make it all come together for our family, we are overworked, underpaid, and…we’re paid with love. This is…I’ve always…you know, I have to say that. But, you know, we’re tired.

So this is also going to what I have discovered from my experience is that it also helps with sleep. Like, my sleep was in the toilet, Katie, I mean just…I would wake up at 2:00 o’clock every day, every night 2:00, 2:00, 2:00, 3:00, tossing and turning, hot, sweaty, turning, and this is totally changed my sleep cycle and the way that I sleep. I actually sleep throughout the night so moms could take it to help with sleep. There’s that dip of energy that usually happens around 2:00 or 3:00 in the afternoon, and a lot of moms and, I’m included, you know, grab that extra cappuccino or a cup of coffee, or extra kombucha or something, right? And now, I just take a little bit of my hemp and I feel like, “Oh, there I am again, yay, more energy.” So it kind of restores my energy and restores my sleep.

And I know that a lot of my research has been around sleep for women, in particular. And so when women are sleeping, you know, a good eight hours, seven hours, you know, our body is being restored, right? So we can take on what’s in front of us throughout our day, right? We can we can deal with traffic, we can deal with the dog, and the cats, and the animals, and the husbands, and whatever, right? We can deal with it all. So sleep is such a big factor for moms, I think, and for women. And CBD has helped tremendously with that.

And I also just wanna put a little plug in around maybe…I’ve read some recent studies on PTSD and it helping, you know, soldiers and people coming back from really hard times, and it’s helped with that as well. So again, there’s so much information out there. And a little bit of research, you can uncover so much of what it can help with. But being really clear with, “Okay, I would like to take this because of this symptom, this symptom, and this symptom,” right?

So I’m depressed, I have inflammatory bowel problems, I’m not sleeping. And what I share is like just try it and see what happens because the CBD is, actually, an adaptogen, and it’s modulating our system. So it’s going to give you what it needs. So you may think like I…it’s so great. I had one client start to take it because she had, exactly, intestinal situation. But what it did for her is that she was able to walk around her child’s school and not be anxious. She noticed that all of her anxiety was gone. So that’s a game-changer for somebody.

Katie: Yeah, absolutely. And I have a friend recently who had, like, a postpartum sustained high blood pressure she has preeclampsia pregnancy, and typically, the treatment for that is you have the baby, and her blood pressure didn’t drop after pregnancy. And so they’re still trying to bring it down but the CBD has really taken the edge off of her, and at least gotten it in a safe-ish level. So she’s not, you know, at risk of a stroke, which is huge.

Lane: Oh, God. Again, the blood pressure issue, diabetes, right, again, because we’re bringing the body back into balance. We’re dropping into that endocannabinoid system, which is going to send signals out to the rest of the organs on what to do. And I will touch on the kid thing for just a minute. I personally have given it to my son, and I don’t give him a full dose. I give him just one pump. And he was recently really sick, and his recovery bounce-back time, he’s really sick for a week. He was back in school the next day.

So I’ve seen…and he also, it’s so funny, he’s like, “Oh, makes me calm. Oh.” And then the next day, it wasn’t like that, it was a totally different experience. Again, so I think that’s the nature of the phytocannabinoid diol is that it is an adaptogen, so it will give you what the body needs. So it’s, I think, a fantastic resource for kids, as well.

Katie: Yeah. And there’s so much great research about adaptogens. I know that’s something I’ve been researching quite a bit and I’ve mentioned in a few post, but it really is a whole category of its own too. There are all these amazing plants and herbs, and things that are amazing adaptogens that help…the stress response is so much. And for this to help kids, I’m guessing there’s a lot of moms listening going, “I want my kid to be calm and sleep.” And there is some research. I’ve seen some emerging research about the potential with behavioral problems and even ADD and ADHD. And so this would be one of those legal things that’s worth a try, certainly, before you turn to medication, or it’s something more serious.

Lane: Yes, I absolutely agree with you. I’ve heard and seen moms with kids with ADHD, and the change, the transformation has been…it’s mind-blowing. I mean, I’m like, “What? That’s amazing.” I also had a friend who…her son has autism, totally changed, went from not speaking to actually being present, and smiling, and speaking. So again, this is an oil that the research is still being done. But we have real-life change happening right before us. So yeah, it’s amazing.

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Katie: Yeah. So you’ve mentioned it as an oil several times. And I’d love for you to talk about sourcing and like what to look for. And is it always in oil, or is there a supplemental form as well? Can you kind of give us a brief…

Lane: Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So there are many types of ways to take in the hemp. Some people will vape it, some people will take pills, some people will just use a rub or a salve, some people will take a tincture. And from my experience, there’s also patches. And I’ve tried several different brands and different types because I’m a biohacker, I geek out on this stuff. And they all…I want to get the biggest bang for my buck. I want to absorb the CBD directly, right?

So the product that I use is about 90% bioavailable, which means it goes into my system, passes the blood-brain barrier, and I have an uptake and have like an immediate effect. And it’s done with a nano-enhanced liposomal delivery system. And it’s an oil form, I take it under my tongue and it goes right through the mucus and it doesn’t go through a digestive process. There are tinctures that are in an extra virgin olive oil or they’re in coconut oil. Some of them are made with, fillers, right? Like, there’s just other brands that are doing other things.

And their absorption rate is not as high. Meaning, you’re gonna swallow…if it’s a tincture, you’re going to swallow it, it’s going to go through your esophagus down into your digestive process. And the absorption rate is going to be about 6% to 10%. And CBD is not, I mean, you can get CBD for $20, you can get CBD for $200 depending on the milligrams of the CBD, and the delivery system of it.

So it just depends on how you wanna take it, how much you want to actually get into your body, and, you know, you can vape, right, and you can bring it into your lungs. That reminds me too much of smoking, it’s a weird head-trip for me. I don’t really prefer that. And you can take a capsule, which is usually mixed with some kind of olive oil or, you know, coconut oil. But then, again, it has to go through the digestive tract in the process so you’re not getting as much into your body.

And you also want to really look at…see, this is super important, the extraction process and the certificates of analysis. And I share this because, you know, this cannabis industry is, it’s new. I mean, these guys were just planted in their backyards not, you know, a couple of years ago, right? And now, it’s like if you want a really good product, you wanna make sure that you can see the Certificate of Analysis. You can see if the plants were grown in, you know, what kind of dirt they were grown in, are there any glyphosate, is there any kind of, you know, chemical residue because the hemp plant is a remedial plant, which means it’s going to bring up everything from the earth into the leaves, and it becomes a part of the chemical structure of the plant.

You also want to look at the Certificate of Analysis for any kind of mold or fungus, right, because you don’t want that to be put into your system, especially if you have any kind of immune issue or immune disorder, right? You want no mold, no fungus, super, super, super important. So I always recommend, you know, people asking to see that Certificate of Analysis, and really doing their homework when they choose their oil. And it doesn’t…Again, you’re gonna get what you pay for, right? And that’s like hard to say. But I know for me, I wanna get the best into my body so I can have the best performance or the best outcome. Does that make sense?

Katie: Yeah, it does for sure. And I think that’s helpful. I know you have a guide, as well for finding a good CBD, so I’ll make sure that that is in the show notes at wellnessmama.fm so people can find that from you. And I agree. Like you…with any supplement that applies to anything that I’m gonna take in, any food, you go, you pay for. And you wanna do your research and only pay for something worth taking, or you’re just wasting money, anyway.

Lane: Yeah. It’s so interesting. This client of mine called me and said…she sent me a picture, a text with CBD water. And I was like, “Oh, wow, let me see that.” And it said, “Life is all mold delivery.” And I was like, I got excited, got really excited. And then I said, “How much?” You know, “What are the milligrams?” Like, “How much of the phytocannabinoid diols are actually in that water?” And I said, “Send me the label,” and they had nothing. There was no label for how much was on it.

And I said, “Okay, what’s the name of the company?” So I went online and I looked online. And they had no information about how much phytocannabinoid diols were actually in the product, but they did have a Certificate of Analysis. And so I look at their Certificate of Analysis, and in one bottle, it was 1.5 milligrams of CBD, which is like nothing. And they were charging like $10 a bottle for this water.

But here’s more, this was what got me, is that on their Certificate of Analysis, they had no test for mold or fungus. And one other really important, it’s totally…I’m blanking out on it, but I was like, “Okay, do not drink that water. Just stop.” You know, “For $10, don’t drink it. I don’t want you to drink that.” So just make sure, again, to really do your research and to look at those Certificates of Analysis.

Katie: Yeah, for sure. And I love to touch on too…So we mentioned at the beginning that you are a biohacker. And a lot of the biohackers I’ve met, Dave Asprey and Tim Ferriss, these guys, they’re all men. So I would love to hear you, just kind of, go through some of your favorite biohacks that you do, especially as a woman because I think that there’s not a lot of people talking about these things, specifically for women.

If you are a millennial guy, there are a million people you can follow. But what are some of the things that women can do for biohacking? Kind of explain what biohacking is because I think it gets kind of a scary reputation, and it sounds like you’re gonna like hook yourself up to like 10,000 machines and draw this crazy stuff. But it really can be a very simple thing in your daily life. So let’s talk about biohacking a little.

Lane: Yeah. I really, this word, biohack, it feels so masculine to me. Yeah, it’s just like…and it reminds me of the whole male world. And so I kind of look at it as bio-individual. Like, so I’m this woman who I choose to take care of my body, how I choose to, and I do a lot of N1 experimenting. Meaning, I will track what I put into my body. I have about 20 years of these little notebooks of everything that I’ve taken, and seeing what the results are. So that’s it. The biohacking means to me is that I’m just interested in finding out what something is going to do to my body, whether that be a cup of coffee or a green smoothie, you know, it can be that simple.

And so I think one of the…I don’t know, one of the best biohacks that I do is I don’t drink coffee. And it has totally changed my life. And people are always like, “What? How can you be a bulletproof coach? How can you…That’s like blasphemous.” Like, “No.” But for me, I found out that my genes, my DNA, I don’t process caffeine, I’m actually a slow metabolizer, which means it takes me about a week to get a cup of coffee out of my system.

And I didn’t know that for a long time until I had my genes, you know, on 23andMe. Everybody can do that. Go on 23andMe and find out what your DNA is like and your genetic code. And so when I stopped drinking caffeine, coffee, my whole life changed because my body was no longer having to go through that process of trying to metabolize it, one cup for like a week. And what I was doing was that, I was drinking coffee every day, you know? Two cups a day. And so I didn’t have enough time to process, metabolize, and get it out of my system. So that one hack, right there, changed my life.

Another biohack that I use regularily is I’m super into meditation. I mean, it is like my go-to fix. The science behind meditating and how my brain works after I meditate is amazing. So I slip in meditation twice a day, and you’re probably thinking, “Oh my God, how do I do that with my kids?” “Oh, my God, how do I do that with my job?” “How do I do that?”

And for me, so this is how I do it. And this is like such a great biohack. It’s simple. I mean, I will put five minutes, and that’s all I need is five minutes. And I got this silly little app on my phone, really easy, called Insight Timer. And they have all different types of meditations. And I set it for one to five minutes and it will bring up those meditations. And seriously, I schedule it into my day. I have an alarm, it goes off, “Bing.” I sit down and do it.

And again, I’m looking to increase my performance and my stamina throughout my day. And that meditation, and being mindful of actually committing to it, changes the way my brain works. So that’s the second little biohack that I’ll give you. The third one is as soon as I wake up, I smile. And I give this to all of my clients, this is a part of my coaching. And the science behind smiling upon awakening is absolutely phenomenal. It will change the neural pathways of your brain instantaneously.

So I literally wake up, like my eyes, you know, they start to like creak open and I smile at the same time. And it will, again, change the pathways in your mind, in your brain to a sense of “ahh” and relief. Then I stand up, and I’ll just put my hands on my hips, and stand there for about a minute with a smile. And these are so easy to do. But again, I want to improve my…I’m so interested in performance enhancement so I’m committed to doing these little tiny hacks every day.

Katie: Yeah. And those are so easy and inexpensive. And they don’t even take much time because those are the…

Lane: No.

Katie: Because they think people always object, “That’s too much money, too much time.” And those are all really easy to add in and inexpensive or free, actually.

Lane: They’re free. Yeah, they’re free. I don’t want…like, I could get into supplements, I could get into different weights. Like I have a whole…what is that? Like a whole basket full of little gadgets and stuff, and it’s not necessary, you know? Like, I do a brain training with advanced brain technologies every day. I listen to music to increase, again, increase the neural pathway. I have my son doing it as well because I want him to be more connected and have fine motor skills. So these are hacks that we do in our house together, but they cost money, you know? It’s like, “Do you want to spend that?” You don’t have to. So free is good.

Katie: Yeah, exactly. And so to finish up, I wanna respect your time and respect the listener’s time. And I’m gonna have links to a lot of what we talked about in the show notes. But can you let people know where to find you online?

Lane: Sure. I am over at the upgradedwoman.com. And on Facebook, upgradedwoman.com, yeah. It’s easy to find me.

Katie: Awesome. Well, that link will be in the show notes as well. But Lane, thanks for being here and for clearing up some of the misconceptions when it comes to CBD. And hopefully, it’ll be helpful for a lot of people listening, and maybe they won’t be afraid to give it a try now.

Lane: Yeah, I hope so. I hope so. It’s a great thing. Thanks for having me on the show, Katie.

Katie: Absolutely. And thanks to all of you for listening. And I will see you next time on the “Healthy Moms Podcast.”

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In This Episode You’ll Learn

Lane’s long and painful struggle with poor health, and what she did that finally turned it all around (hint: it wasn’t just healthy living)
what cannabidiol has to do with cannabis, marijuana, THC, and other controversial substances
the overwhelming anecdotal evidence that suggests cannabidiol may help relieve chronic pain, poor sleep, out of balance hormones, depression, ADHD, and more … and what the science says too
how cannabidiol differs from medical marijuana
uses for CBD oil, and whether it’s safe for women, kids, and even babies
the best forms of CBD oil to take (and some that don’t work as well)
what to always check before buying cannabidiol in any form
and more!

Resources We Mention

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[toggle title=”Read Transcript”] Child: Welcome to my Mommy’s podcast. This episode is brought to you by My Green Mattress. If you’ve been reading Wellness Mama, you know that I have used and recommended natural and organic mattresses for years. And I’ve tried a lot of them. We spend a third to a half of our time in our beds, especially children. So this is one great place to optimize and reduce exposure to harmful chemicals. We’ve tried, like I said, several different mattresses over the years and I love all the ones that we’ve tried. They’re all natural options. But I’ve been getting a lot of requests for a more budget friendly option that is good for kids. Which is why when our littlest needed a bigger mattress, we ordered one from My Green Mattress. They are GOT and GOLS certified, they are GREENGUARD certified and they’re completely natural. They’re also much less expensive than a lot of mattresses. So you can check them out and find out more at wellnessmama.com/go/green-mattress. This podcast is brought to you by Myobuddy. This thing is one of my daily go-to’s for relaxation because it combines the benefits of infrared heat, percussive massage and vibrational therapy for what I can only describe as a mixture of deep tissue massage and myofascial release all in one device. It has really reduced my muscle tension and my need for massage and many people with conditions like MS, chronic fatigue, etc are using this for muscle relief. Also, many athletes use it for faster recovery. I personally find the biggest benefit for relaxation and for fascia work, but you can try it out at wellnessmama.com/go/myobuddy and make sure to check the show notes for a special discount. Katie: Hello, and welcome to the “Healthy Moms Podcast.” I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com. And I am here today with Lane Kennedy, who has an awesome story, and it’s gonna dispel some myths on one of the most requested podcast topics on Facebook, which is CBD or Cannabidiol, I’m gonna have to get used to that word, and the differences and the similarities. So Lane is a biohacker and wellness coach. She was actually one of the first bulletproof coaches, and now there are many of them, which is awesome, and she has been coaching women for years, especially about MBSR, which is Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction. And so her whole focus is helping women gain balance and stress relief. And some interesting facts about her, she slept on a wooden pillow without complaint, she’s given birth at home like I have, and she’s been in long-term recovery for more than 20 years. So welcome, Lane, thanks for being here. I can’t wait to jump in. Lane: I am so happy to be here. Thanks, Katie, for having me. Katie: Absolutely. And I think to start, it would be really awesome to hear your story, like what are you in recovery for? And what was your journey there? Lane: Well, I was broken. That’s how we can start. I modeled for many years. So I come from the fashion industry. And in that industry, you tend to live very fast, and you tend to break down very quickly, and that’s what happened to me, you know? I lived a very fast life with drugs and alcohol, and I came to a bottom back in 1996. So it’s been quite a while between a vodka tonic, let’s just say, or a glass of red wine. And now, I’m completely happy and free, and I’m not breaking down like I used to. So that was the beginning of my story. And what happened in my early recovery, and this is relevant to this story is that, I thought because I gave up drugs and alcohol that my life would become…I would become super happy, and my body would function properly. And what ended up happening is that about two years into my recovery, my body actually started breaking down even more. And the doctors didn’t know what was wrong with me. I went to all these great doctors in Beverly Hills and paid top dollar, and they just looked at me like I was some anomaly. And finally, I worked with a doctor, and they did this blood test with me. And at the time, you have to remember, you know, 20 years ago, 22, 21 years ago, a lot of the illnesses that are present today, they didn’t know, you know? They were just coming off of like AIDS, right? Like, anybody with any kind of chronic conditions was automatically categorized or questioned to have AIDS. And so that’s what they did with me. And they stamped that on my blood certificate, and I was horrified. And I said, “What do you mean, I have AIDS?” And they said, “No. Actually, you just have Autoimmune Deficiency Syndrome,” which put me into the camp of, “We don’t really know what’s wrong with you, but your immune system is wiped out.” And so I couldn’t get up my stairs. My bones ached, my joints ached, my hair started falling out, my skin was yellow. And it was really…I mean, you know, when you’re living like I lived, at the height of my career, I had everything at my hands, you know, beck-and-call. And then I, physically, couldn’t cook my dinner anymore. And I was fortunate enough to have a very dear friend who started seeing, back then, what is now today, a functional doctor. Back then, this person was just some weird doctor who did a lot of “Herbal supplements and special protocols,” because there were like colonics involved and drinking olive oil. And all these, you know, methods that regular society, the norm, frowned upon. But what he introduced to me was my wellness path, and I got well. Within six weeks, I was no longer aching, I was no longer on my floor crying every day. I was actually up, and able to cook, and get up and down my stairs and I followed his protocol. But his protocol involved about 150 supplements every day and eating a lot of green vegetables every day. And, you know, I was young. I was like, “I can’t do this every day, you know.” And I started traveling the world, and I kind of fell off of that protocol. And my body was well enough to get by, you know, it was strong enough to thrive, and I was smart enough to start studying. So my studying, the human body and the immune system, really started, you know, 15, 20 years ago when I started this wellness journey. And I’m gonna fast forward a little bit to when I had my son, almost eight years ago. And, you know, I went into the doctor because I’ve always had hormonal fluctuations and a lack of a cycle, or too much of a cycle. And so I actually went on bioidentical hormones about 15 years ago. And at that time, the doctor also told me that I would never be able to conceive a child, that I didn’t have, you know, it would never happen, that my uterus wasn’t strong enough, and just wasn’t gonna happen. And so I was like, “Fine, yeah, hey, I’m not gonna be a mom. I can do other things. I can be of service. I can, you know, travel the world. I can help other people.” And what ended up happening is that I started seeing this functional medicine doctor here, up in…I live up in San Francisco. And she put me on a different protocol. And lo and behold, I now have a healthy baby, you know, an eight-year-old, almost, can’t believe it. And, you know, I don’t know about you, Katie, but I practice attached parenting, I know that you’re a strong mom, and you’re into your kids. And they take…I mean he’s taken everything from me because I’m so attached to being a mom because I was told that I wasn’t gonna be a mom. And as that happened, my body started to break down again. And it was very similar to how it was 20 years ago. My bones started aching, my hair started falling out, my mood was like depression hit really hard. And there were days when I couldn’t get out of bed. It was just horrible. And I felt like…I also had a dental chair accident where I herniated two disc in my neck, and I ended up going to physical therapy for about 9 months, 10 months. And then they said, “We can’t do anything more for you.” And I just kind of surrendered to “This is my life. I’m gonna live in pain. I’m gonna do the best I can.” And it was really…I mean, here I am, a health and wellness coach, and I primarily, you know, help other health professionals. And here I am, you know, just totally broken, doing the best I can, you know. I’m super bulletproof, I eat mostly plants, I drink all the water, I do my green smoothies, you know, I do everything, but I was still broken. And lo and behold, I was doing an event with Nicole Keating of the Epic Wellness. And she saw that I was in pain. And she said, “You know, Lane, I have this stuff. I have this little bottle of oil, and I think it’s gonna help you.” And I said, “What is it?” At this point, I’m desperate. And she says, “It’s hemp.” And I said, “No. Not interested, not interested at all.” And she just looked at me, she said, “Okay. Well, I’m just gonna leave this for your husband, maybe he needs it for his sleep.” And I said, “Okay, that’s fine. You can just leave it, I’ll leave it on the counter.” I woke up the next morning with this excruciating, knife…it’s like a…I used to call it the ice pick. So I have this ice-pick pain in my back that would radiate down into my elbows. And I can kind of equate it to what I hear about fibromyalgia pain or this arthritic pain that happens, and I would get it in my back stabbing. And I woke up that morning, and I was so desperate that I put my finger into the little container that she left me, and I put it on, topically, because I didn’t want to jeopardize my recovery, you know? I have 20 years of living in this long-term sobriety, and I don’t wanna have anything get in the way of that. And so I put it on, topically, and I had an immediate effect. It totally blew my mind. And I called Nicole, and I said, “What is this?” She says, “It’s hemp.” And I said, “Well, I don’t have the pain. I don’t have ice-pick pain anymore.” And she said, “Really?” I said, “Yeah.” And I said, “Well, can I take it internally?” And she goes, “Yeah, you can, it’s a supplement.” And I said, “But you know what? I’m gonna just check in with my doctor,” because I don’t know what I’m doing and I, you know, my brain was like too much information, I don’t know what to do. And so I put a call in to my doctor. My doctor said, “Yes, it’s a supplement, CBD. The science on it is amazing. You’re a biohacker. Do the research.” So I was happy to jump on to Google and start investigating what CBD is, and what it’s not. And I ended up taking the CBD internally, and I’ve been pain-free since then. And for me, to have such a profound experience, I can’t believe, Katie, I can’t believe that I lived. Like I had surrendered to that pain, and that I had just agreed to, like, living that way, of being in that depressed state. I wasn’t really showing up for my child as much as I wanted to. I was really kind of a B-I-T-C-H with my husband, short-tempered, you know. That kind of pain and that kind of depression just takes you down or took me down. And when I took the hemp oil and had such a profound experience, I had to learn about it, and I have to feel like I am compelled now to share about it because it’s so powerful. Yeah. Is that good? Is that enough of my story? Katie: Yeah. That’s absolutely perfect. And I think your first reaction to it about not being interested, it brings up an interesting point, which is the one that I get the most. The question’s about is, what is it? Is it different than cannabis? Is it different than weed? And so I’d love for you to delve into the difference between cannabidiol or CBD, and how that is different from cannabis. And from my understanding, at least, there’s CBD and there’s THC, which is tetrahydrocannabinol, and they’re completely different substances. And from what I understand, THC is the psychoactive one and CBD is not, is that correct? Lane: Correct. Katie: Okay. So what is CBD? It’s isolated from hemp, but what is it, like, chemically, how is it impacting the body? That’s amazing, that you had such a drastic and immediate difference, but what do you know of the mechanism by how it’s affecting the body? Lane: Yes, let’s get into it. Katie: Awesome. Lane: So I’m just gonna preface with, you know, anybody can look this stuff up, right? Like I am just a biohacker, really on a mission to learn more about this, but this information is out there for all of us to learn about. And what I’ve done is I’ve gone so deep within it because of the profound experience. And you’re right, Katie, there’s a hemp plant, let’s just start there. There’s a hemp plant and there’s a marijuana plant. How about that? And the way that we can differentiate the two is by a functional measure, which means they actually can extract the components of the plant, the cannabidiols and they’re the cannabinoids, and there’s about 113 of these little cannabinoids. And the marijuana plant will have THC in it. Therefore, it will be stamped marijuana or, you know, medical cannabis. And hemp plants will not have the THC, or they will have under .03%, which is miniscule amount. So the THC is very useful for some people in some situations. so it’s not a bad part of the plant. But if you’re strictly looking for the cannabidiol, you’re gonna go with a hemp oil. Does that make sense? Katie: Yeah, that does. So I think that’s a kind of a common misconception. And people kind of like lump it all in together, and assume it’s marijuana and avoid it. But that’s, I think, the interesting point. And to that note, CBD, is that legal in the U.S. as far as you know? Lane: Yes. So CBD is completely legal, completely 100% legal. No problems. You can travel with it, you can give it to your kid. I mean, there is nothing…there are no psychoactive properties to it, you know? Like, that was one of my biggest concerns, right? It’s like I’m gonna end up down in my husband’s wine cellar, right? Like no, or like forgetting my kid somewhere. So for me, that was such a big, important factor. Like no THC, no psychoactive property, and having it be completely legal, very important. Katie: Yeah. And from what I’ve seen, you’re right, the research is really astounding in all the different ways it’s being used. But can you kind of go into some of those? Like, what are some of the ways we’re seeing clinical use of this, or people just even taking it at home in a biohacking-type way. Lane: People are taking it all different ways. So I know that there are so many case studies out there and anecdotal evidence about this product working. I mean you can go on Google or YouTube and find hundreds of stories of how CBD is working. The cannabidiol, you know, it works on this endocannabinoid system that we all have, the system is amazing. And there are two receptors that it’s working on. So there’s the CB1 receptor and the CB2 receptor. And the CB1 receptor, right, is in your brain, in the peripheral nervous system. The CB2, we’re gonna be dealing with our immune system. And, you know, when you think about what’s happening in the body is that you can take in the phytocannabinoid diol. And the CB1 and CB2 receptors, in our body, in this fantastic endocannabinoid system, is looking for that cannabinoid, it’s looking for that little molecule. It’s like a lock and key. So we have these receptors, and they’re like, “Where’s the other part? I need to be happy.” And so when we ingest the phytocannabinoid diol, the hemp oil, those CB1 and CB2 receptors are happy, right? So, when we hear a situation like a migraine headache, or PMS, PMS is huge, depression, we know that that is a breakdown of the endocannabinoid system, and it’s because that system is weak. It’s been weakened by our diet, by the stress of our society, just our lifestyle choices. So when we’re taking the cannabidiol, the phytocannabidoil, again, I just wanna express how that system changes because that system is this: a network within us that…How do I wanna say this? It is just as important as the immune system, as the endocrine system. It is monitoring the body. It’s trying to bring it back into homeostasis all the time is endocannabinoid system. So when the cannabinoids are happy, you know, they have that lock and key, the CB1 and CB2 receptors are locked in, then that system is working properly. So people are using it, you know, for, there’s so many things that people are using it for. Children are using it for AD…what’s that? ADD and ADHD, people are using it for addiction, people are using it for ALS, people are using it for Alzheimer, anxiety, arthritis, any kind of epilepsy, right? So all of these systems in the body that start to break down, when they break down, there is a result, right. When the microbiome is disrupted, right, you have gastrointestinal disorders, like Crohn’s disease or colitis, right? So when we balance out the endocannabinoid system, those gastrointestinal disorders calm down because that endocannabinoid system is, again, it’s bringing the body back into homeostasis. Does that make sense? Katie: That doesn’t make sense. So I mean, I’ve been studying natural health for a long time and alternative therapies. And this, I feel like still isn’t talked about very much. Like, why do you think that is? Why is this so still obscure when there’s so much research on it? Lane: Yeah. Well, let me tell you. I mean, 95% of Americans have never heard of this endocannabinoid system, you know, neither has a doctor. And I mean, it’s really, you have to think about our society, right? We have locked down marijuana as, you know, what is it? A Type I drug, right? Schedule I drug. So we can’t really get our hands on it to do much research. There is a lot of government officials, you know, that are against marijuana and cannabis. They don’t want it to be in the hands of doctors. So they put up a lot of roadblocks to have tests. I was reading about one San Francisco oncologist, actually, trying to do get a test approved, you know, so he could start getting some research. And he started this in ’96, then it got road blocked. He had to redefine his test then it got roadblocked again. We were up to ’98, then it got roadblocked again. Now, he’s in the 2000. It took him eight years to get approved on one study, eight years. Do you know how many people die after eight years, right? So it’s a big issue of the National Institute of Health Organization that the drug agency, they don’t want to be generous with a substance that is still a Schedule I drug, even with all of the facts, even with all of the data that they have right now, it’s crazy, it’s crazy. Katie: That is crazy. Especially because, I mean, there actually is legitimate research on marijuana itself and even THC in certain medical cases. Do you think that’s just like a societal stigma? Do you think that’ll eventually change, or what do you see as the future there? Lane: Yeah. I think with CBD, there is going to be change because people are getting well, people are changing. Like I’m one of these people, right, that was broken and miserable, and now I’m like this is available to all of us, right? So I think it has to be in the hands of the people. And if there’s a loud enough kind of voice, we will get acknowledgement. We will get the studies. It may take another 10 years, which is super, super sad, but I think people will come around, I think people will come around. There’s the Raphael Mechoulam, he was the Israeli Organic Chemist out of Hebrew University. And he really talks about, you know, this is his life work. I mean, he’s the one that kind of discovered THC back in 1930-something. And, you know, it’s been years of him watching the power of this plant. And he just perseveres because he trust the process. Like, he knows how powerful this plant ally is. And he just keeps on working towards it. Even though he’s had so many challenges and obstacles himself, you know? It’s just nuts. It’s crazy to think about that, you know, opium or morphine came from opium, like 160 years ago. And, you know, we have this Vicodin, we had this opium, right? And then cocaine came from the extract of coca leaves in the late or mid-1800s. But there’s been this research around cannabis is just untouched. It’s like this big, black box that everybody’s just looking at. It’s so interesting to me as just somebody looking into it. And if I were a chemist or a scientist, I would be on fire. I’d be so…I’d be crazy. But I just, you know, I just keep thinking and rooting for them that the roadblocks will slowly fall down. Especially now that, you know, Obama passed that Farm Bill, people can now grow it, and it’s becoming more, I don’t know, more mainstream as time passes. Katie: Yeah. Well I think your story even illustrates like some of those societal misconceptions. How your first reaction was, “No way,” because that is a common assumption, and it’s gnna take education. And that’s part of the reason I was excited to have you on today, is to kind of dispel those myths and explain that there is a very big difference, and that CBD itself is legal. And as far as I know, it can even be used, you know, pregnant nursing moms or children, there’s all these uses. So I’d love to go into that because I know I’m gonna get the questions. A lot of the people listening are moms, and a lot of them are pregnant. So let’s talk about that. How can moms and women use CBD, specifically? And then also a follow-up, how can children use it? Lane: Okay. So moms and women can use it every day. I use it every day. I have my clients using it every day. It’s a supplement. And they can use it for…again, CBD supports a healthy mood, right? It helped…because we’re working with that endocannabinoid system that’s always trying to bring us back into balance away from the fight-or-flight, we’re trying to drop into our parasympathetic nervous system, we’re trying to…it will help with anybody who is, you know, anxious, anxiety. It will restore us to being calmer, you know, in traffic. Think about when you’re in traffic, you’re like, “Oh my gosh,” right? So moms can use it for bringing down that edge. They can also use it for immune conditions, right, because it’s gonna boost our immune system, because it’s going to attach to that CB2 receptor, which is predominantly happening through the midline of our body and into the microbiome. It’s going to help with any kind of arthritis, right? Any kind of achiness because, again, it’s helping the entire system. So I think, you know, I really believe strongly that women and moms, you know, we’re so…I mean, we do everything, let’s just face it. We’re go-getters, we’re gonna make it all come together for our family, we are overworked, underpaid, and…we’re paid with love. This is…I’ve always…you know, I have to say that. But, you know, we’re tired. So this is also going to what I have discovered from my experience is that it also helps with sleep. Like, my sleep was in the toilet, Katie, I mean just…I would wake up at 2:00 o’clock every day, every night 2:00, 2:00, 2:00, 3:00, tossing and turning, hot, sweaty, turning, and this is totally changed my sleep cycle and the way that I sleep. I actually sleep throughout the night so moms could take it to help with sleep. There’s that dip of energy that usually happens around 2:00 or 3:00 in the afternoon, and a lot of moms and, I’m included, you know, grab that extra cappuccino or a cup of coffee, or extra kombucha or something, right? And now, I just take a little bit of my hemp and I feel like, “Oh, there I am again, yay, more energy.” So it kind of restores my energy and restores my sleep. And I know that a lot of my research has been around sleep for women, in particular. And so when women are sleeping, you know, a good eight hours, seven hours, you know, our body is being restored, right? So we can take on what’s in front of us throughout our day, right? We can we can deal with traffic, we can deal with the dog, and the cats, and the animals, and the husbands, and whatever, right? We can deal with it all. So sleep is such a big factor for moms, I think, and for women. And CBD has helped tremendously with that. And I also just wanna put a little plug in around maybe…I’ve read some recent studies on PTSD and it helping, you know, soldiers and people coming back from really hard times, and it’s helped with that as well. So again, there’s so much information out there. And a little bit of research, you can uncover so much of what it can help with. But being really clear with, “Okay, I would like to take this because of this symptom, this symptom, and this symptom,” right? So I’m depressed, I have inflammatory bowel problems, I’m not sleeping. And what I share is like just try it and see what happens because the CBD is, actually, an adaptogen, and it’s modulating our system. So it’s going to give you what it needs. So you may think like I…it’s so great. I had one client start to take it because she had, exactly, intestinal situation. But what it did for her is that she was able to walk around her child’s school and not be anxious. She noticed that all of her anxiety was gone. So that’s a game-changer for somebody. Katie: Yeah, absolutely. And I have a friend recently who had, like, a postpartum sustained high blood pressure she has preeclampsia pregnancy, and typically, the treatment for that is you have the baby, and her blood pressure didn’t drop after pregnancy. And so they’re still trying to bring it down but the CBD has really taken the edge off of her, and at least gotten it in a safe-ish level. So she’s not, you know, at risk of a stroke, which is huge. Lane: Oh, God. Again, the blood pressure issue, diabetes, right, again, because we’re bringing the body back into balance. We’re dropping into that endocannabinoid system, which is going to send signals out to the rest of the organs on what to do. And I will touch on the kid thing for just a minute. I personally have given it to my son, and I don’t give him a full dose. I give him just one pump. And he was recently really sick, and his recovery bounce-back time, he’s really sick for a week. He was back in school the next day. So I’ve seen…and he also, it’s so funny, he’s like, “Oh, makes me calm. Oh.” And then the next day, it wasn’t like that, it was a totally different experience. Again, so I think that’s the nature of the phytocannabinoid diol is that it is an adaptogen, so it will give you what the body needs. So it’s, I think, a fantastic resource for kids, as well. Katie: Yeah. And there’s so much great research about adaptogens. I know that’s something I’ve been researching quite a bit and I’ve mentioned in a few post, but it really is a whole category of its own too. There are all these amazing plants and herbs, and things that are amazing adaptogens that help…the stress response is so much. And for this to help kids, I’m guessing there’s a lot of moms listening going, “I want my kid to be calm and sleep.” And there is some research. I’ve seen some emerging research about the potential with behavioral problems and even ADD and ADHD. And so this would be one of those legal things that’s worth a try, certainly, before you turn to medication, or it’s something more serious. Lane: Yes, I absolutely agree with you. I’ve heard and seen moms with kids with ADHD, and the change, the transformation has been…it’s mind-blowing. I mean, I’m like, “What? That’s amazing.” I also had a friend who…her son has autism, totally changed, went from not speaking to actually being present, and smiling, and speaking. So again, this is an oil that the research is still being done. But we have real-life change happening right before us. So yeah, it’s amazing. This episode is brought to you by My Green Mattress. If you’ve been reading Wellness Mama, you know that I have used and recommended natural and organic mattresses for years. And I’ve tried a lot of them. We spend a third to a half of our time in our beds, especially children. So this is one great place to optimize and reduce exposure to harmful chemicals. We’ve tried, like I said, several different mattresses over the years and I love all the ones that we’ve tried. They’re all natural options. But I’ve been getting a lot of requests for a more budget friendly option that is good for kids. Which is why when our littlest needed a bigger mattress, we ordered one from My Green Mattress. They are GOT and GOLS certified, they are GREENGUARD certified and they’re completely natural. They’re also much less expensive than a lot of mattresses. So you can check them out and find out more at wellnessmama.com/go/green-mattress. This podcast is brought to you by myobuddy. This thing is one of my daily go-to’s for relaxation because it combines the benefits of infrared heat, percussive massage and vibrational therapy for what I can only describe as a mixture of deep tissue massage and myofascial release all in one device. It has really reduced my muscle tension and my need for massage and many people with conditions like MS, chronic fatigue, etc are using this for muscle relief. Also, many athletes use it for faster recovery. I personally find the biggest benefit for relaxation and for fascia work, but you can try it out at wellnessmama.com/go/myobuddy and make sure to check the show notes for a special discount. Katie: Yeah. So you’ve mentioned it as an oil several times. And I’d love for you to talk about sourcing and like what to look for. And is it always in oil, or is there a supplemental form as well? Can you kind of give us a brief… Lane: Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So there are many types of ways to take in the hemp. Some people will vape it, some people will take pills, some people will just use a rub or a salve, some people will take a tincture. And from my experience, there’s also patches. And I’ve tried several different brands and different types because I’m a biohacker, I geek out on this stuff. And they all…I want to get the biggest bang for my buck. I want to absorb the CBD directly, right? So the product that I use is about 90% bioavailable, which means it goes into my system, passes the blood-brain barrier, and I have an uptake and have like an immediate effect. And it’s done with a nano-enhanced liposomal delivery system. And it’s an oil form, I take it under my tongue and it goes right through the mucus and it doesn’t go through a digestive process. There are tinctures that are in an extra virgin olive oil or they’re in coconut oil. Some of them are made with, fillers, right? Like, there’s just other brands that are doing other things. And their absorption rate is not as high. Meaning, you’re gonna swallow…if it’s a tincture, you’re going to swallow it, it’s going to go through your esophagus down into your digestive process. And the absorption rate is going to be about 6% to 10%. And CBD is not, I mean, you can get CBD for $20, you can get CBD for $200 depending on the milligrams of the CBD, and the delivery system of it. So it just depends on how you wanna take it, how much you want to actually get into your body, and, you know, you can vape, right, and you can bring it into your lungs. That reminds me too much of smoking, it’s a weird head-trip for me. I don’t really prefer that. And you can take a capsule, which is usually mixed with some kind of olive oil or, you know, coconut oil. But then, again, it has to go through the digestive tract in the process so you’re not getting as much into your body. And you also want to really look at…see, this is super important, the extraction process and the certificates of analysis. And I share this because, you know, this cannabis industry is, it’s new. I mean, these guys were just planted in their backyards not, you know, a couple of years ago, right? And now, it’s like if you want a really good product, you wanna make sure that you can see the Certificate of Analysis. You can see if the plants were grown in, you know, what kind of dirt they were grown in, are there any glyphosate, is there any kind of, you know, chemical residue because the hemp plant is a remedial plant, which means it’s going to bring up everything from the earth into the leaves, and it becomes a part of the chemical structure of the plant. You also want to look at the Certificate of Analysis for any kind of mold or fungus, right, because you don’t want that to be put into your system, especially if you have any kind of immune issue or immune disorder, right? You want no mold, no fungus, super, super, super important. So I always recommend, you know, people asking to see that Certificate of Analysis, and really doing their homework when they choose their oil. And it doesn’t…Again, you’re gonna get what you pay for, right? And that’s like hard to say. But I know for me, I wanna get the best into my body so I can have the best performance or the best outcome. Does that make sense? Katie: Yeah, it does for sure. And I think that’s helpful. I know you have a guide, as well for finding a good CBD, so I’ll make sure that that is in the show notes at wellnessmama.fm so people can find that from you. And I agree. Like you…with any supplement that applies to anything that I’m gonna take in, any food, you go, you pay for. And you wanna do your research and only pay for something worth taking, or you’re just wasting money, anyway. Lane: Yeah. It’s so interesting. This client of mine called me and said…she sent me a picture, a text with CBD water. And I was like, “Oh, wow, let me see that.” And it said, “Life is all mold delivery.” And I was like, I got excited, got really excited. And then I said, “How much?” You know, “What are the milligrams?” Like, “How much of the phytocannabinoid diols are actually in that water?” And I said, “Send me the label,” and they had nothing. There was no label for how much was on it. And I said, “Okay, what’s the name of the company?” So I went online and I looked online. And they had no information about how much phytocannabinoid diols were actually in the product, but they did have a Certificate of Analysis. And so I look at their Certificate of Analysis, and in one bottle, it was 1.5 milligrams of CBD, which is like nothing. And they were charging like $10 a bottle for this water. But here’s more, this was what got me, is that on their Certificate of Analysis, they had no test for mold or fungus. And one other really important, it’s totally…I’m blanking out on it, but I was like, “Okay, do not drink that water. Just stop.” You know, “For $10, don’t drink it. I don’t want you to drink that.” So just make sure, again, to really do your research and to look at those Certificates of Analysis. Katie: Yeah, for sure. And I love to touch on too…So we mentioned at the beginning that you are a biohacker. And a lot of the biohackers I’ve met, Dave Asprey and Tim Ferriss, these guys, they’re all men. So I would love to hear you, just kind of, go through some of your favorite biohacks that you do, especially as a woman because I think that there’s not a lot of people talking about these things, specifically for women. If you are a millennial guy, there are a million people you can follow. But what are some of the things that women can do for biohacking? Kind of explain what biohacking is because I think it gets kind of a scary reputation, and it sounds like you’re gonna like hook yourself up to like 10,000 machines and draw this crazy stuff. But it really can be a very simple thing in your daily life. So let’s talk about biohacking a little. Lane: Yeah. I really, this word, biohack, it feels so masculine to me. Yeah, it’s just like…and it reminds me of the whole male world. And so I kind of look at it as bio-individual. Like, so I’m this woman who I choose to take care of my body, how I choose to, and I do a lot of N1 experimenting. Meaning, I will track what I put into my body. I have about 20 years of these little notebooks of everything that I’ve taken, and seeing what the results are. So that’s it. The biohacking means to me is that I’m just interested in finding out what something is going to do to my body, whether that be a cup of coffee or a green smoothie, you know, it can be that simple. And so I think one of the…I don’t know, one of the best biohacks that I do is I don’t drink coffee. And it has totally changed my life. And people are always like, “What? How can you be a bulletproof coach? How can you…That’s like blasphemous.” Like, “No.” But for me, I found out that my genes, my DNA, I don’t process caffeine, I’m actually a slow metabolizer, which means it takes me about a week to get a cup of coffee out of my system. And I didn’t know that for a long time until I had my genes, you know, on 23andMe. Everybody can do that. Go on 23andMe and find out what your DNA is like and your genetic code. And so when I stopped drinking caffeine, coffee, my whole life changed because my body was no longer having to go through that process of trying to metabolize it, one cup for like a week. And what I was doing was that, I was drinking coffee every day, you know? Two cups a day. And so I didn’t have enough time to process, metabolize, and get it out of my system. So that one hack, right there, changed my life. Another biohack that I use regularily is I’m super into meditation. I mean, it is like my go-to fix. The science behind meditating and how my brain works after I meditate is amazing. So I slip in meditation twice a day, and you’re probably thinking, “Oh my God, how do I do that with my kids?” “Oh, my God, how do I do that with my job?” “How do I do that?” And for me, so this is how I do it. And this is like such a great biohack. It’s simple. I mean, I will put five minutes, and that’s all I need is five minutes. And I got this silly little app on my phone, really easy, called Insight Timer. And they have all different types of meditations. And I set it for one to five minutes and it will bring up those meditations. And seriously, I schedule it into my day. I have an alarm, it goes off, “Bing.” I sit down and do it. And again, I’m looking to increase my performance and my stamina throughout my day. And that meditation, and being mindful of actually committing to it, changes the way my brain works. So that’s the second little biohack that I’ll give you. The third one is as soon as I wake up, I smile. And I give this to all of my clients, this is a part of my coaching. And the science behind smiling upon awakening is absolutely phenomenal. It will change the neural pathways of your brain instantaneously. So I literally wake up, like my eyes, you know, they start to like creak open and I smile at the same time. And it will, again, change the pathways in your mind, in your brain to a sense of “ahh” and relief. Then I stand up, and I’ll just put my hands on my hips, and stand there for about a minute with a smile. And these are so easy to do. But again, I want to improve my…I’m so interested in performance enhancement so I’m committed to doing these little tiny hacks every day. Katie: Yeah. And those are so easy and inexpensive. And they don’t even take much time because those are the… Lane: No. Katie: Because they think people always object, “That’s too much money, too much time.” And those are all really easy to add in and inexpensive or free, actually. Lane: They’re free. Yeah, they’re free. I don’t want…like, I could get into supplements, I could get into different weights. Like I have a whole…what is that? Like a whole basket full of little gadgets and stuff, and it’s not necessary, you know? Like, I do a brain training with advanced brain technologies every day. I listen to music to increase, again, increase the neural pathway. I have my son doing it as well because I want him to be more connected and have fine motor skills. So these are hacks that we do in our house together, but they cost money, you know? It’s like, “Do you want to spend that?” You don’t have to. So free is good. Katie: Yeah, exactly. And so to finish up, I wanna respect your time and respect the listener’s time. And I’m gonna have links to a lot of what we talked about in the show notes. But can you let people know where to find you online? Lane: Sure. I am over at the upgradedwoman.com. And on Facebook, upgradedwoman.com, yeah. It’s easy to find me. Katie: Awesome. Well, that link will be in the show notes as well. But Lane, thanks for being here and for clearing up some of the misconceptions when it comes to CBD. And hopefully, it’ll be helpful for a lot of people listening, and maybe they won’t be afraid to give it a try now. Lane: Yeah, I hope so. I hope so. It’s a great thing. Thanks for having me on the show, Katie. Katie: Absolutely. And thanks to all of you for listening. And I will see you next time on the “Healthy Moms Podcast.” If you’re enjoying these interviews, would you please take two minutes to leave a rating or review on iTunes for me? Doing this helps more people to find the podcast, which means even more moms and families could benefit from the information. 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59 responses to “132: Lane Kennedy on How to Use CBD for Sleep, Hormones, & Health”

Jacqueline

February 8, 2018

Awesome podcast like usual. Love all this information on this hot topic. You mentioned a few clients coming to you for gut issues, and I’m curious if this oil can be used for gut issues, mainly constipation. Also, I have a 6 year old son with Type 1 Diabetes and was wondering if he could take the oil and are there any studies or research or articles done regarding the effects of CBD/hemp with Type 1 Diabetes. Thank you for all your help and reaching out to so many of us in the comments.

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1. lane kennedy
  
  February 16, 2018
  
  HI Jaqueline.
  I have to go back to how the oil works, right? On the Endocannabinoid system which works on all other systems. So I have seen ladies stop having IBS, and for me personally, I no longer struggle with constipation. yeah. As for Type 1 Diabetes, yes, there is a ton of research, I suggest google scholar to find articles on it. I believe it will help your son, feel free to reach out to me to connect more. Happy to help.
  
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  1. Gigi
    
    October 3, 2018
    
    Hi Lane,
    
    I’m not able to find the guide you reference on your website. Please provide a link. Thank you.
    
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Kathryn Long

February 6, 2018

Really sad that this is not legal in Texas right now. I really feel like this could seriously help with my severe anxiety. Hopefully it becomes legal soon.

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1. lane kennedy
  
  February 16, 2018
  
  Hi Kathryn, it is legal in Texas, the company I love and use is actually based there, please feel free to reach out to me. It will help support the central nervous system and calm that anxiety. 🙂 Please feel free to do research on it and find me for deeper conversation. 🙂
  
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lane kennedy

February 5, 2018

Thanks for listening Taylor — there is so much information out there on fertility and hemp, I’ve actually started to use this in my practice with clients who have infertility issues as there are a ton of CB2 receptors in the…. UTERUS! (I messed up in a post below and put CB1 receptors it’s actually the CB2 receptors which help modulate the uterus. I didn’t know how to correct it after the post was submitted… ahhhh — TYPO.) As for the sperm count and negativity I have not found anything on that one yet. Please do some research and check out my site for a guide, my website is mentioned in the show notes. 🙂 Happy to connect with you more on this. Oh, and for anxiety and sleep disruption… this is a gamechanger. 🙂 I have classes on Thursdays if you want to check them out.

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Deborah

February 5, 2018

I’m particularly interested in using the CBD oil for a teenager with ADHD. Can anyone suggest any good articles to read for more information. I did a quick search on CBD & ADHD on pubmed but there were no results.

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Rachel

February 5, 2018

I am a breastfeeding momma, is it safe to take for my little one? Thank you ladies!

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1. lane kennedy
  
  February 16, 2018
  
  HI Rachel, hemp actually has one of the same components as your breast milk. I know other moms who have used it, please use your best judgment and tap into with what you are comfortable with — I invite you to do research on the endocannabinoid system. 🙂 Reach out anytime to me.
  
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Giselle

February 4, 2018

My 21 yr old son was recently diagnosed anxiety and mild depression. He’s a welder. Would this oil and hemp hinder his work?

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1. lane kennedy
  
  February 5, 2018
  
  HI Giselle, No hemp oil by law has to have less than .03% THC in it, the product that I use has only a trace amount at .002 and we are looking to remove the entire molecule, but because THC is a part of the DNA of the plant it is extremely difficult to remove it all. The company that I use has a two-part of extraction process. This will NOT affect his work, and if he has to test, what we have discovered so far is that this product is not showing up on any pee tests. You can learn more on my site which has been referenced in the show notes. Hemp works wonders for mental clarity and mood issues, there are lots of papers on this area, search NIH or Pubmed or google scholar. Happy to chat more, reach out. Cheers. Lane
  
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Leslee

February 4, 2018

There are 3 CBD Oils mentioned in the comments. Which one does Lane use and which one does Katie use? I’m looking to use one for sleeping better but I would love recommend something for my mother in law who has Chrohns, has a lot of pain from the medication she takes and additionally only sleeps about 3-4 hours a night. Thank you!

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1. Katie – Wellness Mama
  
  February 4, 2018
  
  I use this one.
  
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  1. Ahnuh
    
    May 7, 2018
    
    How much do you use to support your sleep? I am seeing so much conflicting info on the web about dosage. Thanks!
    
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    1. Katie – Wellness Mama
      
      May 7, 2018
      
      It depends on the individual…
      
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2. lane kennedy
  
  February 5, 2018
  
  HI Leslee, there are so many oils out there and I always talk about absorption when I talk about this oil. What is important is how much you absorb and if the hemp has a delivery vehicle that can get past the blood-brain barrier. This is so important, or you are taking the oil and peeing it out… I mean you will get some of the benefits, which some benefits are great, right? But I always want the most for my investment. We all have to consider three factors when making a decision around our health investments 1-time, 2-energy and 3- finances. TIme in the sense that it will take time for the body to assimilate and adjust, I’d rather your time be spent with an oil that is potent and absorbable. 2. It takes energy to commit and be dedicated to caring for your body, which means taking the oil everyday… then lastly 3. Money, I would rather someone invest in a product that is going to move the needle so to speak, quickly rather than it taking weeks and not having someone find or feel the effects, then saying, “OH that CBD HEMP STUFF doesn’t work…” 🙁 Make sense?
  
  You are welcome to reach out to me on my website which has been mentioned in the show notes, there is a guide with more information. Happy to help.
  
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Jackie

February 4, 2018

Which is the best to use for insomnia , adrenal fatigue and high anxiety , fight flight throughout the day ?

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1. lane kennedy
  
  February 5, 2018
  
  HI Jackie.
  
  I did an episode on this subject a few weeks ago and can only share that it most definitely supports my clients more and more. Please feel free to reach out to me or grab the guide on my website — which has been mentioned in the shownotes.
  
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Tanya

February 3, 2018

I’m confused. The podcast is about the benifits of CBD oil and the science behind it, but then the link to the one used is a hemp oil. Aren’t they two very different oils as far as the way they are extracted and used? Cbd comes from the flower and hemp comes from the seeds? It’s seems like hemp oil is legal but CBD is not due to the traces of thc? I just wanted a bit more clarity before moving forward. I have heard great things about cbd oil, but that hemp oil is just kind of a waste and I’m looking for a bit of clarity on the subject.

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Crystal Knox

February 1, 2018

I almost cried when I listened to this podcast! I am 11 weeks pregnant (and sicker than my previous three pregnancies!), dealing with hormonal/seasonal depression, digestive issues, and worst of all, chronic debilitating myofascial pain in my back. I have so many similarities with Lane’s story, and while I’m sure many of our health problems are different, I too have been to doctor after doctor, naturopath, massage therapist, PT, chiropractor, etc, and no one seems to be able to give me an answer to my pain. I went from being a boot camp instructor, personal trainer, who took my kids hiking most days, to barely being able to walk a few blocks around my neighborhood. I’m so desperate for anything to help. I know the depression, though partly normal for me in February in MT, is being exacerbated by chronic pain, and the hopeless feeling that it will never go away. This podcast made me hopeful that perhaps there is something out there that may help. I ordered from SOL CBD just now. Thank you Katie for your great podcasts and blog, and thank you Lane for the wealth of information on CBD! God bless!:)

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1. lane kennedy
  
  February 5, 2018
  
  HI Crystal. Oh, I hear you so loud and clear. Please feel free to reach out to me. I hope you find some relief.
  
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Rachel

January 31, 2018

I’m confused. There are three different links you are suggesting. First Katie says Lane uses “serenity hemp oil,” and provides the Amazon link but Lane says she uses upgraded primebody.com in response to another comment. And then later down in another comment Katie recommends solcbd.com. So, Lane could you provide the actual name of the CBD oil that you use?

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1. Jackie
  
  February 4, 2018
  
  Yes I am also confused .
  
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2. lane kennedy
  
  February 5, 2018
  
  If you head to my website provided in the shownotes as well Upgradedwoman.com you can learn more about the hemp oil that I use and has changed my life. 🙂 I also have a guide there as well to be more helpful.
  
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Albert David Stanford

January 31, 2018

What CBD oil do you use? Thanks, Albert

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1. Katie – Wellness Mama
  
  January 31, 2018
  
  This one: https://wellnessmama.com/go/cbd/
  
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Kate

January 30, 2018

Hi very interesting podcast, does it help with hormone balance?

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1. lane kennedy
  
  January 31, 2018
  
  Hi Kate. Yes, yes, yes, OMG I have found that it has totally supported my hormones. (I am not a doctor and I’m only sharing my experience.) If you look at the research on how the endocannabinoid system works, you will see that there are a lot of CB1 receptors in the uterus. When that system is nourished estrogen and progesterone find balance. I want to encourage you to research the endocannabinoid system. 🙂 You can also find a guide on my site that shares more information. 🙂
  
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  1. Maggie
    
    February 5, 2018
    
    Hi Lane! Can you suggest a dosage (I know it differs from person to person), for insomnia and anxiety? Also, can you link to its usage in children in a scientific study? You had mentioned it helping with ADHD….thank you so much!
    
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  2. Ahnuh
    
    April 29, 2018
    
    Hi, Is the hemp oil the same as CBD oil? Also, which do you recommend between the one sold on amazon and SOL CBD?
    
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Michelle

January 30, 2018

Is CBD safe during pregnancy and nursing? I love CBD for stressful days but cut it out since becoming pregnant.

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1. lane kennedy
  
  January 30, 2018
  
  I read a really interesting article and study on this subject matter and it proved that the cannabidiol was actually nourishing both the mama and the baby. I am not a doctor but you can google for the studies… amazing.
  
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Lane Kennedy

January 29, 2018

I love everything you are saying, Meredith! It is so important to look at the ingredients and how the crop is grown, that is why I love the company I use. They are super strict on soil, pure high-grade ingredients and testing on every batch to make sure that there is NO mold in the lot, which a lot of companies don’t even think of…and a whole of other testing. Love also that you mentioned the terpenes, the ingredients in the product that changed me are so specific. I had no idea that these terpenes actually open up the receptors up even more, this is HUGE!! And there are major differences with company ingredients, I’ve seen some companies use MCT oil or EVO not the greatest carrier… for getting into the cell and passing through the blood-brain barrier. When I tried other oils I didn’t get the results I get with the nano emulsification of the oil I use. But I guess some hemp is better than No hemp. 🙂 Thanks for your comments.

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Linda

January 29, 2018

So, I read the article but I still am unsure as to which brand is best. Can you tell me what brand Lane is using?

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1. Wellness Mama
  
  January 29, 2018
  
  I like this kind.
  
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  1. Wanda Lassiter
    
    February 4, 2018
    
    Could You tell me where to purchase for organic and all the testing is done correctly. Thank you
    
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Meredith

January 29, 2018

Oh, wow! A topic in which I’m well versed – exciting! 🙂

I’m a co-founder of a hemp-derived, CBD company, and some other items to check for when purchasing CBD include:

-Are they third-party testing? Hemp is a bioaccumulator, meaning it pulls toxins from the soil. The hemp used for CBD oil should be grown organically, and tested to ensure it is clean of heavy metals and contamination. Companies should also provide test results confirming the mg per bottle/balm/etc. Because there are no regulations, no one is ensuring that products contain the advertised mg dose.

-Are they using full-spectrum oil? CBD works well on its own, but is far more effective when all of the other cannabinoids and terpenes found in the hemp plant are present. It’s called the “entourage effect”.

-What other solvents are they including in their product? A lot of companies use PG, VG, or PEG in their products because they are inexpensive, but they also have zero health benefits.

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Lane Kennedy

January 29, 2018

Hello Wellness Mama Community, please feel free to ask me any questions, here to help.

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1. taylor
  
  January 30, 2018
  
  Hi. I have been trying to get pregnant for a number of years. I am interested for the potential of cbd oil for anxiety, sleep, inflammation. However, is it safe or could it affect one negatively ttc? I guess I am still thinking about the negative affects associated with smoking pot. Same question for my husband? He doesn’t sleep well, highly anxious, and depends a bit too much on wine at night. I know that cbd can help alleviate some of this….but would it effect his sperm negatively in terms of trying to get pregnant? Thanks so much
  
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2. Zana
  
  January 31, 2018
  
  My employer does random drug tests. I read about a study that CBD oil use provided false positives for marijuana on testing, but I can’t find any other information. Do you know of studies or other information? Thanks! I’d love to get a handle on my anxiety but I can’t lose my job.
  
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  1. lane kennedy
    
    February 6, 2018
    
    HI Zana, so yes CBD oil can provide a false positive depending on the oil and the extraction process of the PhytoCannabinoid Diol. Grab my guide on my website or reach out to me I have a lot of experience with this. My site is mentioned in the shownotes. 🙂 IT will support you.
    
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3. Belva
  
  June 10, 2018
  
  I have liquid Cbd How many drops should I take. I weigh 113 pounds and just turned 80. Diagnosed with fibromyalgia 10 years ago and I am trying to cut back on some drugs that help.
  
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4. Lauren Wine
  
  September 19, 2019
  
  is this safe to give to my 1 year old in small doses?
  
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Kristen

January 29, 2018

Just curious, I didn’t catch what oil Lane takes. Could you possibly tell me what it was that she uses?
Thank you!

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1. lane kennedy
  
  January 29, 2018
  
  Hi Kristen I use https://secure.primemybody.com/ this is the one that is nano emulsified with a liposomal delivery system and has the greatest uptake without waste. I think there are many great hemp oil companies out there, but I’m not one for spending money on a product that I’m going to pee out… does that make sense? You can reach out to me and learn more about, happy to share. 🙂
  
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Marie

January 29, 2018

I just read the article on CBD oil and I have been wanting to try it for sometime but don’t have the money for it. Can you tell me which is the best and which is the most inexpensive but still has the desired affects wanted and needed. Also I would like to know if insurance would pay for it?

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