The Real Problem with Grains

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Grains are a controversial food in modern society, but the real problem with grains may not be what you think! On the one hand, you have experts who claim that we aren’t meant to eat them based on the stance that grains are a modern addition to the food supply and people have consumed them for only the last 10,000 years or so. Others claim that grains are the foundation of our food supply and have been for thousands of years.

So, Who Is Right?

Turns out that both sides might be, but with some important caveats. This means it isn’t a simple answer, mostly because we may not actually be talking about the same food!

What’s In a Grain?

Grains are simply the hard, edible seeds of grass-like plants. There are many varieties and the most common are wheat, corn, oats, and rice. They are one of the most-consumed foods worldwide and the primary source of nutrition and energy for many populations around the world.

Grains are made up of three main parts:

  1. Bran – the hard outer layer or shell
  2. Germ –  the core of the seed that provides nutrients when it sprouts and grows
  3. Endosperm – the starchy food source for the growth of the seed

Anatomy of a cereal grain

By definition, a “whole grain” contains all parts of the seed, while refined grains often have the bran or germ removed, leaving just the highly starchy endosperm. Whole grains can be a source of nutrients like B-vitamins, magnesium, and others, but in refined grains most of these beneficial parts are removed.

Many manufacturers enrich processed grains with synthetic forms of nutrients like folic acid (instead of the natural form of folate), iron, and B-vitamins to try to make up for the nutrients removed during processing.

Why Avoid Grains? (Answer: They Aren’t What They Used to Be)

It’s a fact: modern grains aren’t the same as they used to be a few hundred years ago, or even a few decades ago! And the grains we consume in the U.S. aren’t the same as the grains eaten in other countries … especially when it comes to wheat.

A few major developments started the problem with grains:

1. New ways of processing led to wider availability (and decreased nutrients).

With the dawn of the modern mill in the mid 19th century, grain evolved. Before this time, grains and wheat were ground in whole form, often with stones, and the flour still contained all the components of the whole grain. It was now possible to separate the parts of the whole grain and use just the starchy endosperm to create an inexpensive and very finely ground white flour (similar to most flour used today).

Without the bran and germ, these new refined flours lasted longer on the shelf but contained much lower levels of nutrients. So much lower, in fact, that in the 1940s manufacturers started to “enrich” wheat and other flours with synthetic nutrients.

Along with the reduced cost of flour from the newer and more efficient method of refining, availability of flour soared and almost everyone could now afford it as a regular staple. This, of course, led to more people consuming flour.

This wouldn’t have been as big of a problem on its own, until …

2. Agronomists developed new types of wheat to increase yield.

In the 1960s agronomists developed new cultivars of wheat in order to increase the amount of wheat possible to grow per acre. This modern wheat is a type of dwarf wheat that, unfortunately, is much less nutritious and comes with a list of potential problems.

A centuries-long study has tracked the results of this change. Since 1843, researchers in England have been conducting research called the “Broadbalk Winter Wheat Experiment.” They tracked many variables related to wheat cultivation, including fertilizer use, crop rotation, and nutrient content.

Unfortunately, nutrient content took a dive. Mark Sisson explains in his fascinating article “The Problem with Modern Wheat“:

Between 1843 and the mid 1960s, the mineral content, including zinc, magnesium, iron, and copper, of harvested wheat grain in the experiment stayed constant. But after that point, zinc, magnesium, iron, and copper concentrations began to decrease – a shift that “coincided with the introduction of semi-dwarf, high-yielding cultivars” into the Broadbalk experiment. Another study found that the “ancient” wheats – emmer, spelt, and einkorn – had higher concentrations of selenium, an extremely important mineral, than modern wheats. Further compounding the mineral issue is the fact that phytic acid content remains unaffected in dwarf wheat. Thus, the phytate:mineral ratio is higher, which will make the already reduced levels of minerals in dwarf wheat even more unavailable to its consumers.

In other words, while these modern varieties are easier and faster to grow, they don’t contain the same levels of nutrients but have the same levels of phytic acid, creating an imbalance that can lead to nutrient deficiencies.

3. Grains are hard to digest without soaking, sprouting, and other traditional preparations.

Aside from the fact that the grains and flours we consume are fundamentally different from the ones our grandparents and great-grandparents consumed, we also prepare them much differently and this may also help explain the increasing rates of allergies and intolerance problems with grains.

I explain in depth in this article how in almost all cultures people traditionally prepared grains by different methods like soaking, sprouting and fermenting (think sourdough bread). These methods make the nutrients in grains more available to the human body and reduce the phytates that can bind to minerals in the body. Many studies support the nutritional benefits of this traditional preparation.

In the name of convenience, we’ve largely stopped using these traditional preparation methods, further reducing the amount of nutrients we can obtain from grains and flours and potentially increasing the amount of mineral-binding phytic acid we consume.

But Why So Many Allergies to Grains and Wheat Especially?

If we just look at the changes in grains from the invention of the modern steel mill and the high-yield dwarf varieties cultivated in the 1960s, it still doesn’t completely match up with or explain the drastic rise of grain-related allergies and intolerances in the last two decades … but there is a missing link that might!

Are Grains and Wheat Toxic?

Other countries don’t seem to have the same problem with grains. Many people report that they are able to eat wheat and other grains without a problem when travelling abroad, even if they react to it in the U.S. In fact, I know several families who while traveling out of the country who consumed more processed grains than they would at home and noticed that certain digestive and skin issues actually improved.

I have family members who can consume certain varieties of grains (like imported organic Einkorn wheat or the ancient grain spelt) without a problem but react horribly to regular wheat or grain products. Why is this? Both contain gluten, so perhaps gluten intolerance isn’t the problem we think it is!

In fact, the answer may be something much simpler and more obvious that isn’t being widely talked about: the cultivation and spraying methods that have changed in the last few decades.

The Real Problem with Wheat

So what’s a mom to do? So many experts in the health world today (many that I’ve interviewed myself on the Wellness Mama podcast) say a resounding “no” to grains and especially gluten-containing grains. JJ Virgin recommends against giving wheat or gluten to kids and Dr. David Perlmutter blames grain in large part of the rising epidemic of MS and other brain conditions.

I agree with the Healthy Home Economist that new pesticides (Roundup or glyphosate, specifically) are largely to blame. The timeline matches up much more closely with the rise in wheat and gluten intolerance in the U.S.

From her article “The Real Reason Wheat Is Toxic Is Not Gluten“:

Pre-harvest application of the herbicide Roundup or other herbicides containing the deadly active ingredient glyphosate to wheat and barley as a desiccant was suggested as early as 1980. It has since become routine over the past 15 years and is used as a drying agent 7-10 days before harvest within the conventional farming community. According to Dr. Stephanie Seneff of MIT who has studied the issue in depth and who I recently saw present on the subject at a nutritional Conference in Indianapolis, desiccating non-organic wheat crops with glyphosate just before harvest came into vogue late in the 1990’s with the result that most of the non-organic wheat in the United States is now contaminated with it.

The fact that glyphosate is banned in many parts of the world may explain why other countries fare better.

In fact, this article and chart explain how increased glyphosate use on wheat crops may be partially to blame for the rising rates of celiac disease, comparing the increased incidence of celiac with increased glyphosate use:

celiac-incidence-as-a-factor-of-glyphosate-application-to-wheat

Of course, I’m hesitant to assume that any of these factors alone is directly responsible for the rising problems we are seeing related to grain consumption in the last few decades, but when you consider that glyphosate may impact gut bacteria in a negative way, it makes sense that this could be contributing to the problem.

Other Reasons for the Problem with Grains and Wheat

Aside from the above problems with modern grains themselves and the way they are cultivated and processed, I believe there are several other (possibly inadvertent) effects of our grain consumption.

More Grains = Less of Other Foods

We know that statistically we are consuming more grain products in general (both whole grain and refined grains) and that corn and wheat are two of the top 5 most consumed foods in the United States. We also know that we are statistically consuming less fat that we have in previous decades, and fewer vegetables.

Since refined grains can spike insulin levels and are a highly processed carbohydrate, our increased consumption may be partially to blame for the rising rates of diabetes and obesity (though of course other factors come into play here as well).

Grains like wheat are found in the vast majority of all processed foods, which makes sense because they are inexpensive, shelf stable, and easy to manufacture. Unfortunately, we are consuming these foods in higher amounts at the expense of foods like vegetables, healthy proteins, and beneficial fats.

Fewer Nutrients

More grains and less of other foods means that we are also statistically consuming fewer of the nutrients found in foods like fresh produce, ethically sourced proteins and healthy fats. As we already know that modern grains have a diminished nutrient content, it is no wonder that it is becoming so difficult to consume enough nutrients from food alone.

Many experts suggest that micronutrient deficiency may be a large contributor to many types of modern disease as we simple aren’t able to obtain enough micronutrients from our food supply. As grains are a large part of the modern food supply but a low source of nutrients, they are contributing to this problem.

So Should We Consume Modern Grains?: The Bottom Line

The problem with grains isn’t as clear-cut as it sometimes seems. It isn’t just about the gluten, or the processing, or the modern cultivation, but a complex combination of many factors. There isn’t a clear-cut answer to that question and it truly does vary on an individual level based on gut health, the type of grain, and how it was prepared.

My Take on Grains

For years, I was completely anti-grain and didn’t eat them at all, especially while healing a thyroid issue. After many years of consuming processed grains when I was younger, I felt great avoiding grains entirely and saw no reason to eat them as I was consuming more nutrients and more vegetables without grains in my diet. This was a guiding principle of my cookbook as well, which I kept entirely grain free and dairy optional.

These days, I do eat white rice on occasion (here’s why) and serve it and other organic and properly prepared grains to my family at times.

What I Do:

  • I still avoid most grains, especially those that contain gluten, the majority of the time.
  • If I do consume grains, I opt for white rice or properly prepared whole grains such as organic Einkorn (soaked, fermented, sprouted, etc.).
  • I don’t make grains a staple of my diet. I do occasionally consume them but make sure that the core of our family’s diet is a wide variety of vegetables and fruits, healthy proteins, and beneficial fats.
  • Whenever possible, I use vegetables in place of grains. Love grains or hate them, vegetables typically contain many more nutrients. I make simple substitutes like using cabbage for noodles in spaghetti or sweet potatoes instead of noodles in lasagna. Not only are these substitutes more nutritious, but they also taste better (in my opinion).
  • I often bake with grain-free flours like coconut flour or almond flour, which are higher in protein and fiber and experiment with cassava flour and plantain flour (sources of resistant starch).
  • When I travel internationally, I try grains in other countries out of curiosity to see how I react. So far, so good … the research continues!

I realize that for many people completely avoiding grains is neither desirable or practical, and it certainly may not be necessary for everyone. At the same time, I continue to feel strongly about avoiding processed modern grains that have been refined, modified, and highly sprayed as they offer no nutritional value and may have a severe health impact over time.

What do you think? Do you consume modern grains? Why or why not?

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About Katie Wells

Katie Wells, CTNC, MCHC, Founder of Wellness Mama and Co-founder of Wellnesse, has a background in research, journalism, and nutrition. As a mom of six, she turned to research and took health into her own hands to find answers to her health problems. WellnessMama.com is the culmination of her thousands of hours of research and all posts are medically reviewed and verified by the Wellness Mama research team. Katie is also the author of the bestselling books The Wellness Mama Cookbook and The Wellness Mama 5-Step Lifestyle Detox.

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976 responses to “The Real Problem with Grains”

  1. Torrias Avatar

    You mentioned sprouted grains in passing but said nothing more on that. Are sprouted grains fine to eat? What about seeds that aren’t technically grains (sprouted or not), such as millet and quinoa? What about nuts, which I’ve also read contain phytates? My reading has seemed to say that *any* kind of seed—be it grain, non-grain, nut, bean, or legume—contains phytates, and they’re best sprouted, or soaked in a way that adds/activates phytase to reduce the phytates (though it seems like a lot of trouble to go to when so many other foods are available in our culture). Thoughts?

  2. Daisy Avatar

    Cray, I agree with you!!!!!

    As OMNIVORES we are not designed to eat carbohydrates like wheat which is a result of sivilization.There are lots of other carb. sources which are rich in Vit B.

    Here is an abstract from NY Times (copy):

    (Title) Diabetes Assosiation and Corporate Sponsors

    To the Editor:

    “In Diabetes Fight, Raising Cash and Keeping Trust”(front page,Nov.25)

    points out the conflict of interest in the American Diabetes Assosiation`s relationship with drug and food companies that make donations to the association.

    Indeed,you even quote an official of the association as saying that

    sugar ingestion is of little consequence for prediabetics.

    I have been a Type 2 diabetic since 1999.The article clames that “obesity and inactivity are the key risk factors” for Type 2 diabetes.

    Perheps for some,butI was neither obese not inactive,yet my blood sugar levels were off the chart.

    I was fortunate in finding a doctor who advised me to cut back signifi

    cantly on carbohydrates.By doing so,I am able to achieve normal blood sugar numbers without using drugs or insulin.

    Perheps someone should inform the American Diabetes Assosiation that carbs turn into sugar when digested. But,there is no money to be made from such advice,which I have never seen from the American Diabetes Assosiation.”

    End of quote

    You protect you point of view so vehemently that I came to the conclusion : You might also have conflict of interests.

    And, yes brain does need sugar but it does´n have to come from carbs that kill people .Any food converts into sugar.

  3. Jojo Avatar

    lol, “a background in nutrition”. Tell me more WellnessMama, forget my Doctor and Dietitian’s opinion. Those are just fancy words for years and years of professional study on these subjects. I’m taking my health advice from someone with a vague connection to the even vaguer concept of “nutrition”.

    1. Peggy Avatar

      You’d be surprised what doctors and dietitian’s don’t know that they don’t know.

  4. Zard E. Tompkins Avatar
    Zard E. Tompkins

    Damn! I wish I would have read your blog 6 weeks ago. I am a Stage 4 HER+ Breast to Bone cancer survivor- yeah it’s been almost 6 years now. I am feeling some bone pain again and my health guru David Miller/Lifethyme of Manhatten, (he realizes that I will never lean towards western medicine again before meeting him I did 8 rounds of radiation that almost killed me) said calmly ” remove all sugar, wheat, grains, carbs from your diet and lets keep an eye on things”.
    I did it for about one week, after 4 days my pain went down… then the holidays came and that went out the window- My mum is a pastry genious, my entire family are foodies… so what I am reading in your blog makes so much sense. Maybe now I won’t be such a whiner, and forget about trying to make grain-free breads- (they all suck.) I have wasted far too much cash on ingredients that just make grainy-cornbread-textured-lumps.
    I shall pass on your link to others in the same frustrating boat as mine-I think it will be easier to get through tomorrow knowing what I know now about grains.

    Thank you!
    Zard Tompkins

  5. Kassandra Anzaldua Avatar
    Kassandra Anzaldua

    this is bogus! anything can kill you if you let it.. water can kill you too. moderation is KEY, is apple pie good for your, no , but it’s good for your soul , it is completely unhealthy to constantly be stressing about what you eat, STRESS is more toxic than any grain known to man.. STRESS will kill you faster than a piece of apple pie, or a donut. food is meant to be ENJOYED not worried about, there’s nothing wrong with cutting out grains if it makes you feel better, but to make a statement so ridiculous as “Grains are killing you slowly” is just well… ridiculous. From the minute you are born you slowly start to die, THAT IS LIFE, we all die at point or another but until then life is too short to not enjoy a piece of pie now and then.

    1. Peggy Avatar

      It’s not the dying that’s the problem, it’s the long lingering ill feeling that goes before it if you aren’t nourishing your body properly.

  6. Valerie Hofferica Reeves Avatar
    Valerie Hofferica Reeves

    Three words, people, three words: EVERYTHING IN MODERATION.

  7. Carla Avatar

    I don’t understand the “No white potatoes” thing. They’re not a grain and they don’t have a high lectin content. If your trying to go grain free, they’re a good starch and I’ve read elsewhere humans generally don’t react negatively. Will you or someone explain?

    1. Wellness Mama Avatar
      Wellness Mama

      They are definitely a more controversial food… they do have some lectins that some people react to, and some people also don’t handle disaccharides well, but you are right, they are definitely not as harmful and many people do ok with them…

  8. Karen Avatar

    As a Celiac, I have to agree that wheat, barley and rye are evil. Corn and rice are fine in moderation, IMO. Wheat needs to eliminated from everything from shampoo to hairspray to vitamin e. So I now make my own to make sure that it cannot hurt me anymore. Thank you Wellness Mama. Your guidance has helped a lot.

  9. Michelle Avatar

    Attempted to cut out grains and starches and it is physically not possible for me. Not only does it make me cranky, but my blood sugar falls (I am not a diabetic, quite the opposite) and I end up with shakes, cold sweats, loss of concentration, tunnel vision. To say that all grains are inherently bad for you is a bit of an overstatement. With that said, there are times when avoiding carbs is an extremely smart idea; i.e, cancer patients should not consume carbs at all (feeds the cancer cells).

  10. Reyna Avatar

    Hello,
    I have only just started reading your articles and see that you are against grains. May I know your thoughts on pseudo-grains that are gluten-free like amaranth, quinoa, sprouted brown rice, buckwheat and millet?

    1. Wellness Mama Avatar
      Wellness Mama

      Non gluten containing grains are a better option, especially if fermented or sprouted, but some people will still have issues with them…

      1. Reyna Avatar

        I am a little surprised to read this article as I advocate a macrobiotic lifestyle. I suppose there is no one size fits all. Thank you for responding. = )

  11. Ash Avatar

    Gluten/Grains, is not linked to autism, so please do not spread that B.S. information. Seeing as how I am on the autism spectrum, and been without grains and gluten for years now, I think I know more than you do. If gluten causes autism, than why do symptoms begin to present while they’re babies. Last time I checked babies only drink milk for at least the first four months of their lives. And unless their mothers breast were made of spaghetti and they leaked out rice, I just don’t see how the baby could develop an allergy to and show symptoms of autism when they aren’t even introduced to gluten until they are at least 6 months old!
    Your argument is invalid. As is the whole, autism is caused by vaccines bull! Vaccines were not made mandatory until the 60’s, I believe, where as autism was first ‘discovered’ some time between 1911 and the 40’s (though it was first thought to be connected with schizophrenia even up until the 60’s). With this said some countries like Japan have banned some of the vaccines believed to be ‘causing’ autism, and you want to know what? The autism rates there are still rising.
    Not to mention autism has probably been around just as long as any other ‘disease’ (for lack of a better word), but because no one cared enough before everyone was clumped together in those asylums all getting the same treatments. The only reason people are worried about it now is because it is a popular news topic.
    The only cause of autism that makes any sense is genetic. Though no one else in my family was ever diagnosed, I believe that my father, and two of my cousins on my mother’s side may be on the spectrum.
    Honestly, unless you are on the spectrum, you will never understand what is like. At times it makes you feel like an alien, like you don’t fit into or understand the machine that everyone else can so easily maneuver and manipulate. But on the other hand you’re able to think of questions that no one else asks (and sometimes find answers), you can do something that other people think is impossible with minimal effort (such as finish a thousand piece puzzle in 2 hours, read a 500 page book in 3 hours, or even come up with complex theories of relativity such as Einstein did (he was believed to have autism)), and the worlds that you can create inside your own head are so amazing that it is quite hard to pay attention to such a bland reality as this. Being on the spectrum, no matter what end can be both difficult and awesome, but I believe that no matter how hard it is and no matter how much you neurotypicals are against us, the reward is much greater than the pain and suffering.
    Any way, my rant is done.

      1. Ash Avatar

        You are quoting one source, I am quoting multiple sources plus my own life experience. So excuse me for saying this, but you are wrong. And I would appreciate it if you wouldn’t spread this false information around, because it isn’t accurate.

        1. Wellness Mama Avatar
          Wellness Mama

          I wasn’t quoting that as my only source, just saying that it might be helpful to you on the spectrum and improving things.

          1. Ash Avatar

            Well you obviously didn’t read my whole comment, because I said that I haven’t eaten gluten for quite a while, and I was diagnosed while not eating it. Not to mention I have heard many other people on the spectrum say that cutting it out of their diet had absolutely ZERO effect on their symptoms. Thus your suggestions and your theories are completely invalid and useless.

          2. Wellness Mama Avatar
            Wellness Mama

            Again, that book is not simply about removing grains but it has a whole comprehensive plan that I have seen help many people with Autism and who are on the spectrum. I feel for your frustration on this issue, but please use fact based arguments and not absolutism like “thus your suggestions and theories are completely invalid and useless.” I am all for constructive commentary, but please avoid rudeness or find another blog to read…

          3. Ash Avatar

            I’m not being rude, and for you to suggest that means that you have zero to very little experience with people on the spectrum. I am simply stating my findings, and how your assumptions are wrong.
            I believe that gluten helps people avoid most processed foods, and thus makes people feel healthier.
            But I don’t agree that people on the spectrum will be anymore more effected by a gluten-free diet than NT’s. It’s not the gluten-free stuff that’s really making you feel better (unless you have Celiac Disease), it’s the not eating so much processed, unhealthy food.
            Whether you have an ASD or are an NT, doesn’t really matter. If you eat healthy, then you will feel better, period.
            It’s silly to think that a person with AS has different chemistry than an NT, and will be more effected by not eating gluten. Gluten itself is not the problem (all it does is help bind food together better), it’s the disgusting “food” that gluten is put in.

  12. Martin Doyle Avatar
    Martin Doyle

    Timeline for the “…dawn of the roller mill…” is off by more than two thousand years. In eastern Asia, Chinese millers perfected use of water powered wooden roller mills to produce rice flour long before Persian millers used wind power for the same purpose. Much later, you cite 1872, European millers came on board with steel rollers. This changes the timeline and impact of most other data presented.

  13. van Avatar

    I watched the documentary ‘Forks Over Knives’ on Netflix. I’m now a vegan because of it, and now you guys are telling me to not eat grains and beans. Where do you think I should get my proteins? I really do not want to eat meat because of the harmful health issues associated with it.

  14. van Avatar

    Have you seen the documentary ‘Forks over Knives’. We are better off not eating meats or dairy. So, now what are we suppose to eat?

    1. Wellness Mama Avatar
      Wellness Mama

      I disgaree with the entire premise of Forks Over Knives and will definitely be addressing the reasons why in a post soon, but I still stand behind the idea of eating enough animal protein from healthy sources…

  15. Barbara Leinweber Avatar
    Barbara Leinweber

    What about boiling legumes to denature those lectins. What about the alkali treatment to denature maize proteins like the Indios have been doing for thousands of years.

    1. Wellness Mama Avatar
      Wellness Mama

      Traditional methods (sprouting, soaking, fermenting, cooking, etc) do reduce the lectins, but not remove them entirely (a celiac could not consume even a sprouted and fermented grain without issue). It certainly is a good idea if a person is going to eat grains, but personally, I’d rather stick to higher nutrient foods that don’t require so much work to be non-harmful!

  16. Yuliya Scott Avatar
    Yuliya Scott

    I was reading some of the other comments below, and it seems that indeed Asian cultures, like the Chinese or Japanese tend to live long and healthy lives (comparatively speaking) and their traditional diet consists of mostly rice and seafood. Incidentally, they also do not eat dairy from what I know. I’ve been diagnosed with endometriosis and had surgery last year, with zero improvement, so I am looking into gluten-free (and possibly dairy-free) diet (hate that word) in the new year, to see if that helps.

  17. Yuliya Scott Avatar
    Yuliya Scott

    Hi, Wellness Mama! First – love the blog. You are doing so many things I wish I had time and space to do, but modern life interferes. Second – are there any exceptions to your grain-free rule? I know that gluten-free diets allow for corn and rice products, but it sounds like you are saying that gluten-free is not enough – we need to be grain-free? How do you feel about buckwheat and quinoa – I know those aren’t technically grains but seeds – same problem or potentially okay? Hope to get a response, as I am considering some version of Paleo Diet for endometriosis, but not sure how drastic to get! Thanks!

    1. Wellness Mama Avatar
      Wellness Mama

      Depending on the person and the situation, different levels can be needed. Personally, I feel best when off all grains (but still getting carbs from sweet potatoes, veggies, fruit, etc), but some people seem to do ok with sprouted, soaked grains, which are certainly preferable than non-traditionally prepared ones! For the most part, non-GMO corn and rice are definitely lesser evils as far as the lectins go, so if a person was going to eat grains, those would be my choices. Are you doing any herbs or supplements to help with the endometriosis too?

      1. Yuliya Scott Avatar
        Yuliya Scott

        I’ve tried it all. I am currently seeing a homeopathic doctor (since traditional doctors have done more harm than good), and I take evening primrose oil, Magnesium/calcium, and Zinc. I will probably also start taking Cod Liver, as you recommend in some of your writings. I feel like there’s got to be a natural way to improve my symptoms where surgery didn’t help, and I have heard endo referred to as an auto-immune disorder, so gluten-free/dairy-free may be a way for me to go (I’ve tried vegan before, which had me eating a lot more grains, and it didn’t help, either). thanks!

  18. Nicole Avatar

    Ummm, I am a vegan, and vegans eat grains and beans for protein, and they are generally some of the healthiest people around, so maybe this only applies to carnivores. I mean, I can see the whole white flour logic and the pastas and people with gluten allergies but the rice pastas, white potatoes, corn. I just don’t agree with that.

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