How to Prevent Heart Disease – Eat More Cholesterol?

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Note: this article is long and goes into a lot of science. If that isn’t your thing, watch the movie Fat Head for free right now on Hulu. It explains much of this in a very entertaining way!

I’m sure you’ve heard or seen the commercials telling the dangers of high cholesterol levels and the various life saving drugs that lower cholesterol levels. Compelling commercials, but based on bad science! You might be surprised to find out that science actually shows that cholesterol levels have little to no effect on heart disease risk, and if anything, high cholesterol might lower your risk!

Cholesterol is a lipid that is present in the cell membrane of all the body’s cells. It is essential in proper synthesis of hormones, absorption of fat soluble vitamins, and cell regeneration. Sounds important, right?

It certainly is! So important in fact, that the liver is careful to regulate levels and produce 1000 milligrams or more a day. The current dietary recommendation for cholesterol consumption is only 300 mg daily, not even close to what the body needs and produces naturally. Here’s the kicker though, to keep necessary cholesterol and function properly, the liver produces more cholesterol when you don’t eat enough of it, and when you are getting enough from your diet, you liver produces less!

So what is the proper role of Cholesterol in the body, and what should we get from diet and what shouldn’t we?

The Cholesterol- Heart Disease Hypothesis

The typical story on cholesterol and heart disease that you’ve probably heard goes like this:

  1. High Cholesterol in the diet raises blood cholesterol
  2. High Blood cholesterol causes heart disease (this part is referred to as the Lipid Hypothesis)

Seems logical enough, except that when you break it down, the facts don’t make sense. First of all, the Framingham Heart Study, which is the most extensive study on risk factors for cardiovascular disease ever done, found that there is absolutely no correlation between large amounts of cholesterol in the diet and risk of heart disease.

As for the second part, the Lipid Hypothesis, the science here doesn’t make sense either. If blood cholesterol really did cause heart disease, than this would be noticed across the board in different age groups and demographics…. except it doesn’t. In fact, as people age, cholesterol typically decreases some, yet risk of heart disease rises!

Also, women typically suffer 300% fewer heart attacks than men, but higher average cholesterol. Something doesn’t add up! If cholesterol doesn’t cause heart disease, what does? And what effect does cholesterol actually have on the body?

Cholesterol- Different Types and Their Roles

LDL, or Low-Density Lipoproteins typically get the bad rap in the cholesterol world, but LDL serves the important function of transporting cholesterol that the liver produces to the various parts of the body where it can be used. Research is now finding out that there are two types of LDL- Soft big LDL, which are shown to be relatively harmless, and small dense LDL which can be more problematic. The important part to remember here is that while a proper cholesterol balance is necessary, LDL does serve a very necessary purpose! (Interesting note, there has been a correlation shown between consumption of simple carbohydrates and increase in small, dense LDL)

HDL or High-Density Lipoproteins are typically given a halo in the medical world for their role in transporting cholesterol that has been used by the body back to the liver to be excreted as bile. Certainly an important job also, but one that serves its purpose after the LDL has has transported the cholesterol and the body has used it.

Studies are even showing that high cholesterol might not be a problem at all, especially if the two types of proteins are in balance and there are not an abundance of small dense LDL. Some studies even show that higher cholesterol can correlate with a lower risk of heart disease!

In some studies of people around the world, researchers have found that those with the highest blood cholesterol have the lowest risk for heart disease.

Cholesterol is actually a vital nutrient for healthy cell formation and hormone synthesis. It is necessary for production of progesterone, testosterone, DHEA, and other hormones that are vital to proper endocrine function.

What Does Cause Heart Disease?

Heart disease is the number one killer in our country today, which is startling considering that a little over a hundred years ago, it was practically unheard of! In fact, the first heart attack wasn’t even described in scientific literature until 1912, yet heart disease rates have risen steadily since then.

causes of heart disease

Source: nhlbi.nih.gov/

Saturated fat has gotten a bad rap for causing heart disease as well (and supposedly also contributes to high cholesterol and thus heart disease) but an analysis of all studies evaluating the connection of saturated fat and heart disease found no correlation. In fact, many studies actually showed a reduced risk of heart disease and mortality with increased saturated fat consumption. Also, saturated fat consumption has dropped as heart disease rate has risen, as has the total amount of calories we are consuming from fat:

Since then, some studies have shown that those with the lowest cholesterol are more likely to die of heart disease (and vice versa).

Cholesterol Lowers Risk Of Heart Disease

So then, what actually causes heart disease?

There are still many theories, and most actually come down to nutrition, or lack thereof, rather than genetic factors or cholesterol levels.

For instance, one study in the 1940s and 1950s found a strong correlation between consumption of sugar and increased inflammation throughout the body, including in arterial walls (a major risk factor for cardiovascular episodes). Recent studies are showing that fructose is perhaps more dangerous than regular sugar. Interestingly, consumption of sugar and high fructose corn syrup have risen at rather similar rates as heart disease:

Sugar consumption and heart disease correlationand:

high fructose corn syrup and heart disease

Other studies have linked deficiency of vitamins B6 and B12 (found in meat along with saturated fat!) and deficiency of Vitamin C to brittle arterial walls and higher risk of heart disease.

Perhaps the strongest correlation, however, is that between vegetable oils (you know, those “heart healthy” ones like canola, soybean, corn, etc.?) and increased instance of heart disease. There is more an more emerging evidence that supports this claim.

Vegetable oils are high in Omega-6 fatty acids, which have their place in the body, but if eaten out of proportion to Omega-3 acids, can cause some serious problems and inflammation. From this article:

The most important change in the American diet during the years of CHD increase has been the gradual substitution of vegetable fats for those of animal origin. Hydrogenated fats — in the form of margarine and shortening — have replaced butter and lard, while the consumption of vegetable oils has increased more than 10-fold. Since as early as 1956, a number of researchers have found that consumption of trans-fatty acids in hydrogenated oils contributes to heart disease, including most recently Mensink and Katan in the Netherlands, and Walter Willett at Harvard University.

Interestingly enough, the graphs representing consumption of vegetable oils and fats in the last 100 years look strangely similar to the graph showing heart disease rates:

canola oil consumption and heart disease

soy bean oil and heart diseasecorn oil consumption and heart disease

The imbalance of Omega-6 to Omega-3 fatty acids along with the fact that many vegetable oils are oxidized or hydrogenated, increases inflammation in the body, which can be a factor in increased risk of heart disease. These oils also contain the much feared free-radicals that can weaken and damage arterial walls. From the article above:

Arterial plaque contains cholesterol because the body actually uses cholesterol to repair injuries, tears, and irritations to artery walls. However, like rancid vegetable oils, cholesterol that has been oxidized by high temperatures and exposure to air can itself irritate the arterial walls and initiate pathological buildup. High temperature spray production of powdered milk and eggs, used as additives in many processed foods, began in the early part of the century. Consumption of both hydrogenated fats and products containing oxidized cholesterol increased greatly after the war.

A recent study found that excess consumption of omega-6 fatty acids, the kind found in commercial vegetable oils made from corn, soy, safflower, and canola, increases the amount of oxidized cholesterol in the arterial plaque. Like sugar and white flour, these vegetable oils, produced by high temperature industrial processing, are new to the human diet. It is the polyunsaturated omega-6 fatty acids — not saturated fat — that form the major fat component of arterial plaque, yet for many years the American Heart Association and many establishment nutrition writers advocated consumption of polyunsaturated oils for the heart.

Vegetable oils and hydrogenated fats were introduced in the early 1900’s, (1911 to be exact) and both vegetable oil consumption and heart disease rates have risen since then. It is important to note that these fats simply were not consumed before this time, because they didn’t exist!

Trans fats, which have gotten heat in most circles lately, are present in some forms of these oils/fats, and studies are showing a strong link between trans fat and increased risk of heart disease. These processed vegetable oils were introduced and touted for their potential to reduce the risk of heart disease compared to animal fats, but they haven’t done that. For instance:

  • Rose, et al. (1965): Replacing animal fat with corn oil for two years lowered serum cholesterol by 23 mg/dL but quadrupled cardiac and total mortality.
  • Sydney Diet-Heart Study (1978): Replacing animal fat with vegetable fat for five years lowered cholesterol by five percent but increased total mortality by 50 percent.

While saturated fat gets the bad rap, there is a noticeable lack of studies showing a clear link between saturated fats (from real, unaltered sources) and heart disease or increased mortality. High triglyceride levels, on the other hand, have been linked to increased inflammation and resulting heart disease, as well as increased risk of diabetes and low HDL cholesterol. What causes high triglycerides? Glad you asked- a diet high in sugars and carbohydrates.

Grain consumption (especially wheat) has also risen steadily during this time period, and grains are in an entirely different form than they were a couple hundred years ago. The introduction of the stone mill allowed grains to be ground into much smaller particles that create more of an insulin response in the body and can damage the intestines.

Wheat flour and heart disease

An important note here: since peaking in the 1950’s deaths from heart disease have dropped slightly, which researchers contributed to factors like decrease in smoking and better detection and treatment of factors leading to heart disease.

Though of course, correlation does not prove cause, the graphs above do show a strong resemblance between the rise in heart disease rates and the rise in consumption of products like sugar, vegetable oils, and wheat flour.

What about Statins?

To solve the problem of high cholesterol, which we’ve just found is not necessarily a problem at all, Big Pharma has come to the rescue with statins: drugs that keep the body from producing cholesterol.

The problem is, that since we’ve shown that cholesterol doesn’t necessarily cause heart disease, and that cholesterol is necessary for cell regeneration, hormone synthesis and many other important jobs in the body, decreasing the body’s ability to produce cholesterol might be (and is) the wrong approach!

What about the cells that need regenerating? What about proper hormone balance? What about the body’s ability to absorb fat soluble vitamins? All good questions and all without answers from the manufacturers of these drugs.

To add insult to (lack of ability to repair) injury, statins haven’t actually been shown to reduce risk of cardiovascular problem or mortality at all! (Logical when you realize that cholesterol isn’t the problem). Check out this article for a breakdown of effectiveness of these drugs.

If the body doesn’t have and can’t produce enough cholesterol, it won’t be able to synthesize vital nutrients like Vitamin D, or produce hormones like serotonin, melatonin, progesterone, testosterone, etc., which can leave you depressed, having trouble sleeping, or with reproductive difficulties.

What Does Reduce the Risk of Heart Disease?

A lot of the factors that can help improve heart health and reduce the risk of heart disease fly in the face of conventional wisdom, but you are probably used to that by now!

  1. Eat More Eggs- and cholesterol containing foods. As I mentioned earlier, if the body doesn’t have enough dietary cholesterol, it must manufacture it, and dietary cholesterol has no relation to heart disease. Eggs have a ton of nutrients and help the body synthesize fat soluble vitamins. Enjoy those bacon and eggs!
  2. Reduce Carbohydrate and Grain Consumption- Emerging research is demonstrating the link between inflammation and heart disease. Grains and sugars contribute to inflammation and increase the risk of heart disease. Consuming them, especially in excess, has also been linked to other problems like metabolic syndrome, diabetes, obesity and others.
  3. Avoid Vegetable Oils and Products Containing Them- These oils mess up the balance of protective Omega-3 fatty acids and potentially dangerous Omega-6 fatty acids in the body. They also contribute to inflammation and arterial damage. There is no reason that you need to consume these oils at any point… ever!
  4. Eat Lots of Saturated Fats and Other Healthy Fats- As studies have yet to link saturated fat intake with heart disease, and in fact, many prove the opposite, getting enough saturated fat from sources like animal fats, coconut oil, raw organic dairy, etc is essential to give the body all the building blocks it needs for proper cell and hormone function.
  5. Optimize Vitamin D and Fat Soluble Vitamins- Fat soluble vitamins in proper amounts in the body have a protective effect on tissues and organs (including the heart). If you’ve been on a law-fat diet or used sunscreen all your life, you could be seriously deficient in vitamin D, so consider getting your blood levels tested.
  6. Get Enough Omega-3s- These help balance out the Omega-6 to Omega-3 ratio in the body and prevent inflammation. Omega-3s also can thin the blood and keep it from clotting too regularly, a risk factor in heart disease. Having a proper Omega-3 balance also helps keep triglyceride levels in check.
  7. Exercise- You’ve heard this one before, yet most of us don’t get enough exercise in. Exercise helps strengthen the heart and tone muscles. It increases circulation and reduces stress hormones- all good things to help reduce your risk of heart disease.
  8. Reduce Stress and Get Enough Sleep- High stress levels and lack of sleep can both increase inflammation and stress hormones in the body. Both are also linked to higher levels of many diseases, including heart disease, and increased overall mortality.

Your turn. How much cholesterol are you eating?

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Reader Comments

  1. Kathy fletcher says

    My mantra is “Dietary fat does not make you fat!”  People get sick of hearing me say it, but this article says everything I believe. Margarine will kill you, pasta will make you fat, and an avocado everyday will make you healthy, happy, and full!

  2. Susan says

    “FatHead” also has a very interesting blog – recently he posted regarding a link between low-fat, high-carb diets and the development of Alzheimer’s disease, which like heart disease has also increased exponentially since the introductions of processed fats and carbs.

  3. Lever says

    This was really interesting to read. I’ve been really confused about how people are coming to the conclusion that eating high amounts of fat can be good for their heart, but because I consider myself a scientist, I like to look at the evidence of an argument before discounting it. Even if it goes against what I consider very established evidence, its worth looking at and considering if its supported.

    However, your article cherry picks scientific evidence instead of presenting it honestly. It targets readers who are either A) scientifically illiterate (which is not meant as an insult) or B) people who dont actually have access to pubmed or other academic databases, so they cant really check your facts beyond the abstract. Luckily, I do have access.

    Your first claim, that “cholesterol levels may have no effect on heart disease and lower levels may only increase your risk” is based on that one study in the elderly. This is a cohort study, which means it only looks at a fraction of the population from a specific time (thus, results cannot be generalized to the remaining population).

    You say women have 300% less heart attacks then men, but higher cholesterol. No source is given. But i did find that the AHA claims women have higher HDL cholesterol, or what is sometimes referred to as the protective cholesterol that decreases the effect of LDL (the low density kind that increases heart attack risk). There is no evidence i could find that they have higher LDL. Also, your article fails to look at the bigger picture. Such as stress and its effect with cholesterol. You cant look at one variable and make your conclusions on that. Heart disease is brought on by more than just cholesterol, and low stress may mitigate the negative effect of cholesterol.

    You claim that the study you cite decided that higher cholesterol was associated with lower heart disease risk. Again, not the whole picture. Also, another cherry picking example. This is another article dealing exclusively with the elderly (which, again, cannot be generalized passed that cohort). If you read the article, it says that “there is considerable evidence that hypercholeserolemia is associated with coronary heart disease risk in the young and middle aged population, but whether increased cholesterol is associated with higher risk in those over 70 is controversial”. So you stretched another article farther than its reach, yet again.

    This one is my favorite. You claim that “An analysis of all the studies ever done evaluating the connection between saturated fat and heart disease found no correlation”. Not true at all. The meta analysis looked for a very specific number of studies based on 5 criteria. Using a number of terms, including saturated fat and heart disease, they found over 700 total studies. How many did they evaluate? 16 for CHD, 8 for stroke. This research is epidemiological and is based on self-report, not blood samples as it may have been implied by your writing. The article also mentions a few interesting things that are counter to your statement 1.) “There was lower CHD risk when saturated fats were replaced with poly unsaturated fats” 2.) “Benefits of reduced saturated fat intake in regards to CHD may be dependent on increased polyunsaturated fat intake” 3.) “The available data were not adequate for determining whethere there are CHD or stroke associations with saturated fat in specific age or sex subgroups. The results however, were interesting and counter to some data on saturated fat associations with heart disease. But, one study is not science. You need to look at all of the evidence to formulate conclusions. You discount the thousands upon thousands or search results in ISI Web of Science, Ebsco, The Lancet, and PubMed that suggest a strong link between cholesterol, saturated fat intake, and heart disease, as well as the efficacy of Statins and other cholesterol-lowering drugs in mitigating the damage done to people (such as myself) who have extremely high cholesterol levels due to genetic makeup.

    Finally, and i apologize for this rushed and sloppy response to your article, your “what prevents heart disease” portion has no references. None. Although i do agree with many of them, if you dont have evidence for them you should state them as your opinion, not fact. The problem with the saturated fat and heart disease debate is ideology. Many people love to eat fatty unhealthy foods that taste amazing, but may be slowly killing them. Eggs and bacon and red meat are all delicious. Many people profit considerably from the sale of these items as well, and are justified in wanting to keep their jobs and farms and companies. But this is health science, and it is the real world. Every single scientific discovery has a handful, and sometimes even more than a handful, of evidence that is counter to an established fact. Though its always good to question and investigate and learn, its necessary to think critically about these issues.

    • says

      I certainly agree that it is important to consider these things critically and I appreciate your detailed response. I don’t have time to delve into specifics now, though I am working on another post that would explain how the “evidence” supporting the saturated fat/heart disease link is in fact, more flawed… In the meantime though, my opinion is that I’m sticking with red meat, eggs, bacon and lots of coconut oil. :-)

      • Joe says

        Cholesterol is essential to the health of the body. Your body can produce as you said 1,000 mg, and possibly more on it’s own. Dietary cholesterol cannot reach the amount we can produce naturally. We produce a controlled amount through the chains of carbohydrates. The body can produce it from anything really because of it’s importance, but the body uses carbs. Cholesterol essential/carbs essential, and they work together. I’ll stick with that over paleo type diet.

        Contrary to claims of the traditional living Inuit being immune from cardiovascular disease, evidence of severe atherosclerosis has been identified in several frozen mummies of Alaskan Inuit dating back to 400 CE and 1520 CE, both instances predating European contact.7 8 Atherosclerosis has also previously been identified in several artificially prepared mummies of Aleut-Unangan hunter gatherers who lived in the 18th century in the Aleutian Islands in Alaska.9 10 Recently the HORUS study, which examined an additional five recovered mummies of Unangan hunter gatherers who lived in the mid and late 19th century found definite evidence of atherosclerosis in several major arteries in all three who were over the age of 25.11

    • Eliza says

      I appreciate this thoughtful response. However, Katie (Wellness Mama) is not inventing or even cherry-picking these data. It was not as detailed as someone from your background may appreciate, but an easier-to-digest overview of some complicated principles (which I spend most of my time writing/researching) in a format easy enough to share with friends and family.

      You began your post by saying this is contradictory to some long-held views. Indeed many in the medical community still cannot accept the fact that these long-held views still can be traced to the erroneous musings of Ancel Keys.

      A high-fat diet most certainly can be the ticket for protection against CVD, depending on the types of fat. It can be astonishing for people to discover that saturated fats in the diet do not necessarily lead to saturated fats in the body, that the “good” fats long praised by established medical community are actually dangerously inflammatory. Katie pointed to the Rose Corn Oil Trial and the Sydney Diet Heart study. Most doctors have never heard of these – yet they showed significant harm from high omega-6 polyunsaturates.

      The best examples of high-fat diet and beneficial heart outcomes can be found in the Inuit Eskimo (before adopting a more westernized diet) who ate 13000 mg of omega-3 a day and did not experience heart disease (in addition to the 6500 mg of omega-6 plus huge amounts of SFA) and the current intake of the Japanese who enjoy some of the lowest heart disease rates in the world. To you, however, this may seem like more oversimplified cherry-picked data, and I understand your point of view.

      For a more comprehensive peek into this ongoing debate, I invite you to view my article on the topic:

      http://omega3.supplysideinsights.com/reports/2013/02/omega3.aspx

      Enjoy!

  4. Lever says

    Hello Eliza,

    I never said invention of data, but it was most certainly cherry picking. Or, if you prefer this phrase, it was glossing over the details to find something that fit with the idea of this article. I actually think it was very detailed compared to most articles meant for the general public, and well-written as well. But it was defending ideas that are simply not true, based on current evidence. And I agree it is easier to digest. Because most people do not want to be told that their diet may be slowly killing them and are looking for a way to eat poorly, yet still sleep at night knowing (falsely) that they will be okay. This is an example of cognitive dissonance (Im a psychological researcher by trade).

    Your example of what I wrote would be what I would refer to as cherry picking. Yes, there were some findings from an article that I admit were interesting and contrary to general findings. But in the sciences, there is what is called a type 2 error. That is, falsely concluding that a result is significant when it is not. So, in this case, concluding that saturated fat doesn’t increase cholesterol based on just a few articles, while rejecting the 100s of other articles that have concluded the opposite. Since most, depending on the type of study, use a .05 error this means that, statistically speaking, 5 out of every 100 studies published will find a false positive result. So, yes, by definition of the protocols used, there will be examples of this in the literature. Which is why we used replication and rely on dozens upon dozens of articles rather than follow the conclusions based on a handful or less.

    Your right though, fat is not the enemy. Saturated fat is. And saturated fat becomes cholesterol in the body. I’m a little confused by which fats you are referring to as inflammatory, but I will take a look at your article and hopefully have that clarified. Again, the studies referred to are epidemiological and based on self-report. Just like the China Study. But conclusions are made on experimental evidence because it is impossible to control variables and say what is the cause of what in epidemiological studies.

    And although your right that Japanese citizens and Inhuit Eskimos have a much lower incidence of heart disease, both of these populations have a much much higher risk of stroke because of excessive Omega-3s. Although Omega-3 is kind of the darling of health research at the moment (and for good reason), too much of a good thing can be bad. Also, although heart disease risk is much lower in Japan, it is still the 2nd most common cause of death in the country (Perhaps because of increased westernized diets, but that is another discussion). The bottom line is that we should always challenge established scientific findings, as that is how new science is made, but we cannot make conclusions on a handful of evidence saying go left versus a mountain of evidence saying go right. Although I know you and wellnessmama mean well, it would be irresponsible to recommend high saturated fat diets under the premise that they are healthy.

    I appreciate your reply, Eliza!

    • Joe says

      Lever052 – I think you are spot on with your analysis.

      The Inuit example is always used – but Inuit Eskimos have a life expectancy of 43 – the average age for getting heart disease in the West is 63 – they simply might not be living long enough as a group to see any major heart disease trends.

      I also feel that the majority of the studies out there point to saturated fat being a risk factor. This could be for other reasons – and I think oxidized fat and cooking methods have a lot to answer for – but the scientific majority is there none the less.

      One final comment about bacon and eggs. Considering the corruption of the food supply (factory farming etc), the bio-accumulation of organochlorines and the recent research into bacterial exotoxins, as well as nitrosamine content of bacon, the production of carcinogens whilst frying and the low antioxidant content of both of these foods – I think it is pretty irresponsible to promote this as the food people should be eating.

      • Stacey says

        Get nitrate free bacon and free range eggs-these things are okay to consume you just have to know the sources

  5. Donna Tate Ford says

    How do I know if my lotions contain citrus oils? Are there “safe” shops you recommend?
    Feeling overwhelmed.

  6. JC says

    I just realized something people. Trying to figure out nutrition is like trying to figure out politics, religion, or the origin of the universe. It aint gonna happen. Thanks for helping me out people.

    Meanwhile Im going to not try to figure out mother nature anymore and I am going to eat a BALANCED whole foods diet with plenty of saturated fats and some of those evil unsaturated fats. And Im going to eat about equal amounts of protein and carbs too. Even some of the toxic sugar.

    • Heidi says

      If someone waves another study under nose claiming that they have the truth and evidence to support it I think I will eat it, the research that is! Yes keep it simple and enjoy a variety of foods in moderation.

  7. lisa says

    Ok, so I wonder if you have any insight on my current situation. Presently, I’m dealing with a bit of adrenal fatigue, am hypothyroid (FT3, FT4, etc are low & TSH is 7.5), progesterone to estrogen is low and estrogen is high. I just got new tests done and show that I have high cholesterol which I’ve read can correlate with high TSH levels and by balancing that out cholesterol will take care of itself. Interestingly enough though, it’s been since I started eating meat again 3 months ago (I was a vegetarian for about 6 yrs) that my TSH went from about 5.0 to 7.89 and now back down to 7.5 since I started a thyroid support. I’ve been reading a lot about how meat can potentially cause stress to the body and thyroid specifically and that by consuming gelatin that will help balance the amino acids in the body (just started with homemade jello — thanks for the recipe!! — the past few weeks). I wonder if you have any input with regards to my situation.

    • Lorraine says

      This is exactly what I keep hearing
      some claim to have gotten high bad cholesterol on the low carb high fat diet
      clearly they had to raise their sat fat for energy
      and also hearing a lot of people’s experience with thyroid conditions over time with his diet
      I’m getting really confused with mixed messages and contractions and not enough fact based info on nay of the things people are claiming
      I’ve been studying a lot on this and am still confused and not sure what to believe on this diet
      this diet is suppose to improve health
      not cause problems
      like bad high cholesterol
      and thyroid imbalance over time
      and what is the right amount of carbs anyway and what is the percentage of each fat of 50 to 70 per cent of our intake meant to be
      sat over omega fate etc?
      and why are people coming away from being healthy or unhealthy to begin with
      with both having thyroid conditions and high bad cholesterol and not improved good cholesterol
      ????????????
      what is the truth
      what is the best diet for me
      should I quit this diet now I’ve started
      I don’t have flu symptoms either
      I feel better than ever
      and it’s only been 2 days and I’ve starved myself by accident yesterday and today because of my sleep pattern and being out and about
      so 3 days started badly anyway but don’t want to go back to grains or high fat
      but then will need to do it properly for now on
      but what amount of carb is too low or too high I’m confused
      and now this evidence i found on people suffering from hormone etc imbalance after a month or 9 months on this diet
      heard carb cycling will help with this though
      but again no evidence based on this speculation
      I don’t know if it’s helped anyone who suffers with thyroid balance after this diet
      I know if you had it before starting diet
      that working down slowly and doing autoimmune is best but not heard evidence that it’s helped the people suffering there either
      but those who suffer hormone imbalance after the diet is the worse
      I don’t want my cholesterol balance or my hormonal balance going out of whack on this diet anymore than I would want it on any other lifestyle habits
      if evidence I found and this lady suggests that this diet on high good fat wheather the cause or not is turning out that they have these problems
      then I’m concerned greatly
      ththe things said here helps me think maybe bad cholesterol doesn’t exist maybe it’s all myth like eggs having cost role gives cholesterol
      I remember finding evidence comments basing that eating loads of eggs had lowered their bad cholesterol and increased the good
      loads of people commented this
      but none of fats like butter coconut oil
      and red meat not being a bad cholesterol riser
      maybe it is the meat not the butter
      maybe it’s both
      maybe it’s something else altogether
      but is there real truth and evidence out there
      cause this diets solely relies on fat for energy
      and the only other alternative I have to not putting myself at risk is eating high carb veg and still eating good amount of fat from butter fish etc
      but clearly not an excessive amounts to raise up my calories intake
      but eating that many good carb veg has not been proven to be manageable
      I mean for one eating grains or other carb based food not veg based fills me up so can’t fit in a lot of fish veggies etc
      imagine how many carb based veggie I have to eat to make that amount
      I think green leafy etc are in the better spectrum of veggies than carb babased veggies
      so I agree with sweet potato and winter squash and some fruit but not excessive amounts I think more greens are better on whole
      so not balanced enough this way but better than grains
      and fat if fat is the culprit
      but then also insulin is being stated as problem in health conditions too when eating carb or rather sugar based diets
      so on one hand
      sugar problems diseases caused by insulin rise is true
      or fat problems where cholesterol and hormonal imbalances cause by this is true
      I think rationality says there’s more problems in sugar diet
      even if the quack doctors out there says eat more veggie oils cooked maybe substituting those quack doctors suggestion wit nature based sources instead and maybe the rest is true the too much fat is bad
      maybe the balance is between the two
      but you can’t avoid meat and good fat
      and the today guidelines claim that we need sat fat and meat protein so how can they turn around and contradict themselves that we should avoid them and how can stores lower fat every which turn
      like today went to my freezer pulled out my salmon for dinner
      and I’m stopped by it stating they picked a low fat lean salmon resulting in lower good omega 3
      how is this bloody better
      why not pick high omega 3 fatty fish where Is their blooming logic in this
      wasted money on frozen fish that lowers my omega 3 intake
      but yet they podcast a lot on omega 6 foods and sources they sell
      luckily they didn’t add preservative to their fish though
      idiots
      so how are we to trust quack doctors when they are in complete contradiction of themselves
      they stress on omega 3 and 6 balance yet promote lower omega 3 high omega 6
      so really fat is okay if it’s all veggie oil based and cooked in veggie oil based sources
      what the world
      so I sway toward sat fat
      more of good fat replace bad fat
      like omega 6
      or rather to balance it
      but should glucose or fat be your bodies burner
      sense now says
      is sugar sensitive insulin fat building and other diseases correct
      so far many evidences point to results on lowered illnesses etc on this diet even on this so called bad sat fat
      but yet many still have hormonal imbalances and bad high cholesterol
      there I’m stumped
      I know lifestyle gut diet etc have all to do with hormonal balance and health too
      maybe body needs carbs and glucose to lesson people’s response after time of imbalance in hormone
      and maybe that is true and will work
      and maybe cholesterol is eating too much carbs and imbalance of omega 3 on low carb diet
      makes no sense to be
      but fact is there from those living with it
      risen cholesterol bad kind and not changed good cholesterol at all
      and also thyroid imbalance
      anyone got any more proof on this and solutions
      coz I’m still not sure which is best
      high sat fat
      I ununderstand body needs it but really in excess to burn fuel?
      and sugar that causes most problems is this got more proof
      not just evidence things improved coz that could be because they were deficient on nutritions and balance now theyre not
      I mean we’re either without fish fat veggies
      or we eat plenty
      I have heard that people improved more in taking them on low carb than high carb for those already doing all things right
      except the intake of fuel being right
      whether fat is right or carb is right
      I just need more evidence and information
      so I can choose the right balance for me and my future kids and help others do the same
      so many condradictions are scarying me rigid and making me starve myself coz I’m too afraid to eat either way
      I don’t want my health compromised either way
      I do know avoid non foods and eat real foods
      I discovered if did veg carbs and real foods until ready and more informed to start low carbs but then that day I went for real foods and had no veg carb
      I had no room in my day or tummy to fit in grains temporarily or to fit in veg carbs if I had them
      so I tired to continue on low carb coz I felt good
      and next day I felt even better
      and 3rd day I’ll never know if I have ketosis or carbflu
      1st day great
      2nd day ate late on coz sleep patten is still rubbish last week or so and had to stay up for visitor all day so didn’t eat til night and ate take out but made sure ate high fat mostly from coconut like korma base and very little carbs
      which was little white rice some lettuce and onions and cucumbers they sold
      and 5 chips coz they sent them when I didn’t order them and I tried to resist the craving so much for a ttaste to no avail
      what a splendid test they gave me
      not
      then protein was chicken mostly
      but I know the veggies oil was cooked in some of them coz they tasted like bad bad bad
      like I drank petrol
      not like good fats I had the day before
      but least I didn’t turn to carb based meal
      anyway the 3rd day today I woke up feeling lovely and wonderful
      can move around freely and head was super
      tummy was super
      since starving self I must be turning everything I ate the other day into glucose my guess without the high grain hence my better health rise
      the 1st day i was super without any grains
      tho started my menstrole pain
      so strange to feel so good on monthly and not much pain at that just some wind
      the nutrition I ate must have upped my health too coz everything felt better maybe it was just the hydration
      and maybe my body was running okay coz was using up stored glucose and on fight mode for survival
      2nd day before menstrole properly started I was sleepy from lack of sleep but still felt super was that from more stored glucose maybe?
      but you would think the 3rd I would be crappy esp on monthly and people get low carb flu more so if starving self etc
      but super again
      strange huh
      maybe take away before used as glucose form I’m not sure
      where to start now
      I was turning to fish and that since had to go out and couldn’t eat late and sleep pattern is so rotten still due to missing sleep other day slept day away
      but came back to find the fish is low fat type grrrrrrrrr
      then tried to check how much fish should we be eating daily
      should I pop in enough fillets to make up 400 can like a normal fillet salmon is
      certain will help my fat energy thing esp to get enough cal each day on fat for ketosis
      but anyway then get bombarded on wrong info
      so check nutrition
      the website I found before on great sources of nutrition we need
      it taught me about lamb shoulder and beef organs and that being super best etc
      so I trusted it just didn’t know ow what it was called it could help with fat balance like omega 3
      but found info on these sat fat low carb being the sources of their cholesterol problems
      but I couldn’t comment on there for some reason their website is
      “http://authoritynutrition.com/low-carb-diets-and-cholesterol/”
      and also someone else website I like saying butter and good fats is always superiors to eat it more tho she believes in grains etc too so ummm hmm
      so I come back here to learn now about sat fat and read the self acclaimed scientist opinions on it and now this lady other fact on risen cholestrol and thyroid problem on this diet
      and you see why I’m now in a muddle
      coz it’s not the only muddle I’ve come aacross since learning. about this diet
      I want to eat more healthy foods
      get full on carbs so cant
      so scared now to do veg carbs instead incase can’t fit them all in too much cash and still risk on insulin
      then now fat being energy sources
      which is true

      • LB says

        my rationality says there’s many people living to 50 and doing diet for 20 years that don’t have any problems so if high bad cholesterol is a problem and these people are getting it higher than 10 years poor diet people then wait a minute wouldn’t they be dead ?
        and I do recall now evidence based on a skeptic scientist test of many people on low diet and many people tested on low carb high fat diet and I recall it mentioning cholesterol being okay on there and that this diet doesn’t affect anything in the long run I think that’s why amonamongst knowing from a very truthful nutritionist based sources website that red meat like beef and all super greens are best sources of all the nutritional needs you need but I believe this also convinced me red meat is a joke the quacks are playing on us turning us to more cook veg oils or omega 6s
        so if this is true this is a test from a scientist using many people 100 I think to test the best weight loss method as well as any long term harmful effects and these were skeptic scientist that done the test and it proved no rising in bad cholesterol at all so if this is what I read ill try find it again then truthfully sat fat can’t be the cause of these people high cholesterol
        some people are saying it can be in the genes too
        I don’t believe anything is in the genes to be honest
        but maybe this one could be
        maybe there born with imbalanced amounts of cholesterol
        I wish I can test these people myself
        all of them including those on this diet to prove they have good cholesteol
        ;)
        I wish I could
        this is something not proven a lot on and very useful and helpful to all who wants to improve their health with this diet
        we need this info
        but for some to get by on this diet of high high sat fat
        higher than those who were all tested with high bad cholestrol with high sat fat diet
        if low carbers with higher sat fat dont bave cholestrol probekms there is your proof all wrapped up nicely in a bow for you.
        I just need more proof on those on this diet with no cholesterol problems
        that concludes is bad cholesterol or imbalanced cholesterol really bad for you or is it something else they are doing not just high sat fat
        if not then is it not something else that causes high bad cholesterol not sat fat at least not alone ?

  8. bob green says

    This is all very confusing. My father lived to 97 years with an alert mind. His advice was NOT to eat the food that humans monkeyed with and get plenty of exercise.

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