Is the Flu Shot Safe?

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There is no question that the presence of flu season each year and the vaccine created as a result have become hotly debated issues in the media, by bloggers and perhaps most fiercely, by moms.

Since I have often fit into high risk category number one in the past few years (pregnant women), and have children that fit into high risk category number two (young children), this is an issue I have spent many hours researching. I’ve compiled some of the research I have come across in researching this topic. Please note that I am not a doctor, and none of this is to be considered medical advice. I’m simply sharing information I found while researching this topic for my own family.

Also please note that any discussion involving vaccines can potentially become heated. I welcome *charitable and civil* discussion in the comments below. Any direct attacks or name calling will be banned. At the end of the day, we are all striving to make the most healthy decisions for ourselves and our families.

Terms, Defined

When referring to the flu, I am including all of the following in the definition:

Influenza, often referred to as “flu,“ is an infectious respiratory disease caused by type A or type B influenza viruses, which are present in the mucus membranes and secretions of the nose, throat and lungs. There are other viruses and bacteria associated with “flu-like” symptoms and it is estimated that about 80 percent of all flu-like illness that occurs every year during the “flu season” is not type A or type B influenza. Only lab confirmation can detect whether flu-like symptoms, including serious complications like pneumonia, are caused by influenza viruses or other types of viral or bacterial organisms.

When referring to the flu vaccine I am including the following:

Two types of influenza vaccines are available in the U.S.: inactivated injectable influenza vaccine and live attenuated influenza vaccine, which is inhaled through the nose,Inactivated, injectable influenza vaccines packaged in multi-dose vials contain the mercury preservative thimerosal but inactivated influenza vaccines in single dose vials are thimerosal-free or contain trace amounts of the mercury preservative. The live attenuated nasal influenza vaccine does not contain thimerosal. (as of the date of my research on the topic)
There are 16 different influenza vaccine products licensed in the U.S. marketed by different pharmaceutical companies. Some of these vaccines contain only the 2009 pandemic H1N1 influenza A virus strain. However, most seasonal influenza vaccines in the U.S. contain two type A influenza viruses and one type B influenza virus that are selected every year by the World Health Organization (WHO) and U.S. Centers for Disease Control (CDC) for inclusion in flu shots given during the current flu season.

What’s the Flu Vaccine?

The NVIC compiled a helpful list of links (from the FDA website) of the product inserts and specifics on the current flu vaccines:

Quadrivalent Vaccines – Nasal

Quadrivalent Vaccines – Injected

Trivalent Vaccines – Injected

  • AFLURIA by CSL Limited (Afluria) – Package Insert & Licensing Information, Category B
  • Agriflu by Novartis Vaccines and Diagnostics, Inc. – Package Insert & Licensing Information, Category B
  • FluLaval by ID Biomedical Corporation of Quebec – Package Insert  & Licensing Information, Category B
  • Fluarix by GlaxoSmithKline Biologicals – Package Insert & Licensing Information, Category B
  • Flublok by Protein Sciences Corporation – Package Insert & Licensing Information, Category B
  • Flucelvax by Novartis Vaccines and Diagnostics, Inc. ­– Package Insert & Licensing Information, Category B
  • Fluvirin by Novartis Vaccines and Diagnostics Ltd. – Package Insert & Licensing Information, Category C
  • Fluzone by Sanofi Pasteur, Inc.
    • Aluminum
    • Formaldehyde
    • Trace antibiotics
    • Aluminum — a neurotoxin that has been linked to Alzheimer’s disease
    • Triton X-100 — a detergent
    • Phenol (carbolic acid)
    • Ethylene glycol (antifreeze)
    • Betapropiolactone – a disinfectant
    • Nonoxynol – used to kill or stop growth of STDs
    • Octoxinol 9 – a vaginal spermicide
    • Sodium phosphate

      Pros & Cons of the Flu Shot

      Obviously, the upside of getting a flu vaccine should be immunity from the flu. Unfortunately, if the wrong strain is included in the vaccine, this won’t be accomplished. This article explains how this is not an exact science and how it is not possible to completely predict the strain or provide protection from it.

      It seems there are two safety issues with flu season: the flu itself and the safety of the vaccine. I set out to research if (a) the vaccine was effective and (b) if it was safe. Once finding this out, I also wanted to determine the risks of the vaccine in comparison to the risks of simply contracting the flu.

      Ironically, while pregnant women, elderly, small children and medical workers are thought to be high risk candidates for contracting the virus (and are therefore encouraged to get it), the research is still out on the safety of the vaccine for these categories.

      What are contraindications to the flu vaccine?

      Among high risk factors listed by the CDC and the vaccine manufacturers are anyone who:
      (1) is sick with a fever;
      (2) has an egg allergy;
      (3) has a mercury allergy;
      (4) has a history of Guillain-Barre syndrome.

      If immunosuppressed individuals receive the flu vaccine they may not get an adequate protective antibody response.

      Is Flu Vaccine Recommended for Children?

      One consideration with the mass use of flu vaccine in healthy children is the removal of natural antibodies to flu which are obtained from natural infection. The question of whether it is better for healthy children, who rarely suffer complications from flu, to get the flu and develop permanent immunity to that flu strain or it is better for children to get vaccinated every year to try to suppress all flu infection in early childhood is a question that has yet to be adequately answered by medical science.

      Although in the past the flu vaccine has not been recommended for healthy children, today vaccination of children between the ages of 6 months and 18 years is strongly recommended by the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) of the CDC and New Jersey now requires influenza vaccine for daycare and kindergarten entry.

      Is the flu Vaccine Safe During Pregnancy?

      In years past, pregnancy was also a contraindication to flu vaccine but, today, the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) of the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) recommends flu vaccine for women more than 14 weeks pregnant.

      Influenza vaccines are Category B or C drugs, which means that adequate and well-controlled studies on pregnant women have not been conducted and it is not known whether these vaccines can cause fetal harm when administered to a pregnant woman or if they can affect reproduction capacity.

      The package inserts published by the flu vaccine manufacturers state that “Animal reproduction studies have not been conducted with influenza virus vaccine. It is also not known whether influenza virus vaccine can cause fetal harm when administered to a pregnant woman. Although animal reproductive studies have not been conducted, the prescribing health care provider should be aware of the recommendations of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices. The ACIP states that if used during pregnancy, administration of influenza virus vaccine after 14 weeks of gestation may be preferable to avoid coincidental association of the vaccine with early pregnancy loss.”

      Pregnant women should be aware that the flu vaccine contains Thimerosal, which is a mercury derivative. Mercury is toxic to the brain and has been found to be associated with brain damage and developmental delays in babies whose mothers were exposed to high levels of mercury during pregnancy.”

      No testing has been done on the effects of these vaccines, alone or in combination, on the unborn children of pregnant women who receive them, though:

      A recent study showed exposure flu viruses among women during pregnancy provoke a similar gene expression pattern in the fetus as that seen in autistic children.

      Another important point to consider when weighing the risks and benefits of the flu vaccine(s) is their effectiveness. There are no controlled studies that demonstrate any decrease in cases of the flu among those who have gotten the vaccine. The insert in the FLUVAL vaccine for the 2009-2010 formula specifically states:

      FLULAVAL is an influenza virus vaccine indicated for active immunization of adults 18 years of age and older against influenza disease caused by influenza virus subtypes A and type B contained in the vaccine. This indication is based on immune response elicited by FLULAVAL, and there have been no controlled trials demonstrating a decrease in influenza disease after vaccination with FLULAVAL.

      Additional Resources

      I highly encourage everyone to do their own research on this or any health topic. If you are interested in further reading, here are some of the resources I found helpful:

      National Vaccine Information Center page on Influenza

      More detail on the flu vaccine

      Flu Shot and possible link to Guillain Barre Syndrome

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About Katie Wells

Katie Wells, CTNC, MCHC, Founder of Wellness Mama and Co-founder of Wellnesse, has a background in research, journalism, and nutrition. As a mom of six, she turned to research and took health into her own hands to find answers to her health problems. WellnessMama.com is the culmination of her thousands of hours of research and all posts are medically reviewed and verified by the Wellness Mama research team. Katie is also the author of the bestselling books The Wellness Mama Cookbook and The Wellness Mama 5-Step Lifestyle Detox.

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108 responses to “Is the Flu Shot Safe?”

  1. Shawna Odman Avatar
    Shawna Odman

    I got the Flu shot 9/25/13 and was sick off and on with viruses up until 12/31/13 when I contracted the H1N1-A virus and Addenovirus and was sick for 4 months, post-coughing and fatigue. I got no shot this year and so far so good. I do not want to put those chemicals and poisons in my body. It’s a choice though. It was an awful time and doctors said had I not been given the shot in September I might be dead. I’m gonna follow up on your research.

  2. Drinda Rawlings Avatar
    Drinda Rawlings

    At 65, I am old enough to remember the polio epidemics in which vast numbers of adults and children died or were paralyzed & survived in iron lungs. Many of those who survived suffered from post polio syndrome as older adults. When the vaccine was developed, we stood with our parents in long lines at the public school (whether one attended public or not) 3 times to get the sugar cube with the vaccine on it. Polio was virtually eliminated in the US. I remember measles when kids got really sick, some fatally & mumps which caused hearing loss in children and sterility in post puberty males. In 1964 & 65 there was a rubella epidemic which caused a huge increase in children born with severe to profound hearing losses & often other problems bc their pregnant moms contracted this in the first trimester. When more than 10% of the population is not immunized, it creates a lessened effect of immunization for us all even though we were inoculated. Third world countries have folks dying of these diseases daily in no small numbers. The research on autism from immunizations has proven repeatedly that they do not cause autism. The original author of the study on this who said it did has stated that he lied about his results, yet the public continues to perpetuate this myth. I was a special education teacher for 30 years and have seen the devastation of diseases like rubella. meningitis, etc. I don’t want us going back to a time before these preventions were available.

    1. Lisa Robinson Avatar
      Lisa Robinson

      Congress recently agreed to the hearings of Dr William Thompson a CDC scientist. He turned over documents to Rep Bill Posey showing a CDC coverup. It is awaiting a hearing. Please stay up to date . My son is vaccine injured Dtap with seizure disorder and still in diapers at nine. Please research before giving your opinion .

      1. nancy m Avatar

        Hello Lisa,

        I’m very sorry to hear about your son. There are many things you can do to help your son recover from the damage done by the vaccines; its a combination of detoxing the heavy metals from his body and supplying it with essential nutrients. The body has the innate ability to heal itself.

        Best wishes

  3. Shelly Avatar

    I did not vaccinate my son, who is now 14. With the new research regarding things like autism and vaccines, plus him being older, I am rethinking my decision. When I chose to not vaccinate, I was not college educated, had only read the case against vaccines in clearly biased, poorly cited books, and the chance of getting one of the major diseases vs. the chance of a reaction to the vaccines, especially with my personal and family history of food allergies, environmental allergies, asthma, eczema, and reactions to shots and medications, was kind of a toss up. I chose what I felt was the safest option. I am glad I chose the way I did; my son has never had anything more than the flu, and the only time he has ever been sick longer than 36 hours was the year the swine flu went around, which he had for almost a week. He has also never had or needed antibiotics, for which I am very glad; natural antibiotics and immune boosters were enough.

    In spite of his good immunity, he developed the food and environmental allergies which run through my family. He also has congenital abnormalities in his brain, not genetic, which apparently occur during the first trimester – I blame taking long baths in NYC tapwater, but who knows why – including Optic Nerve Hypoplasia. If I had vaccinated, I surely would have been one to blame those for his conditions before we finally were directed to a neurologist for an MRI when he was 6; he was symptomatic behaviorally from age 6-7 weeks!

    At this point, due to his neurological and behavioral issues, convincing him to get vaccinations will be extremely difficult. I am hoping the little patches with tiny barbs – the needle free vaccinations – come out very soon to circumvent this issue.

    1. nancy m Avatar

      Hi Shelly,

      The Dis-Eases you mentioned are not a cause of genetics; there is now new science showing that DNA is a road map and that anything you expose the cells to can have a positive or a negative effect. Also, the body has the innate ability to heal it self if you provide it with the right tools. From what you mention; it sounds like your son has heavy metals which you can help him get rid and he also needs to replenish his gut flora. 80% of the body’s immunity is in the gut so if you strengthen the good bacteria; that will lead to health.

      This video will help confirm your good decision not to vaccinate:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL8srdLw4c0

      Best Regards

  4. Jessica Avatar

    I worked as a CNA in hospital and nursing homes for 10 years and have never contracted the flu. And I have never and WILL NEVER get a flu shot! My daughter has Autism and anything with mercury will be avoided at all costs…including dentists! But not just for her. For my son and myself too. Good article! Too many are misinformed and “pushed” into the flu vaccine without proper education.

  5. Kayla Avatar

    Katie-God is using you in great ways. Keep up the good work informing naturally-minded moms; my family has benefited greatly from your blog and you have encouraged me to look more deeply into many issues.

    I have a broad field science background for secondary education (certified chemistry, physics, biology, geology) and have a 6 month old son. I am always looking for more research regarding vaccines. I think it is so important that as moms we can respectfully converse about this critically important topic that is close to all of our hearts…we all want to make the best and most informed choices possible for our children.
    I understand why the vaccine conversation can become so heated as so much conflicting research is published and we all want to protect our children.

    If you are questioning whether or not to vaccinate, I strongly encourage you to do research. Research I have found very helpful:
    1. Vaccines: Are They Really Safe and Effective? By Neil Z. Miller
    -The author is a medical research journalist and father. He statistically and thoroughly examines each vaccine on the market (as of 2012) to evaluate efficacy and side effects. He gives citations for every fact. Most of the citations come from the WHO and CDC
    2. Reports on recalled vaccines, such as Gardasil; SV40 found in polio vaccines; the CDC statement: polio has been kept alive via the vaccine; liability for vaccine injuries
    3. Eradication of infectious disease due to sanitation (rates of certain infectious disease fell in Europe concurrently with US while Europe did not vaccinate)
    -do we need to provide the world with clean water and better sanitation or with vaccines?
    4. Dr. Mercola has an entire section of articles related to vaccine information
    5. NVIC
    6. Ask your doctor to print information related to each recommended vaccine and/or ask to have a scan of the product label at your well visits. Please read this information before vaccinating. (Whether or not you choose to vaccinate in general, sometimes vaccines are not recommended for ANY children, such as if the child has a cold or fever or recent illness, etc.)

    If you have read any books or research articles that you have found to help support your decision to/not to vaccinate please share them so we can all learn more and form a community of moms who can make informed decisions about this extremely important issue.

    God bless all of you, you are a good mom for taking the time and effort to think critically! 🙂

  6. Mel Avatar

    I personally am not fond of flu vaccines in the slightest. You research just further proves I am not completely crazy in feeling so. I had never gotten the flu until last year when my job forced me to get a vaccine. Now I am sick with it once more in the midst of flu season. I am aware that vaccines can’t necessarily get you sick, the correlation between the two makes me uneasy. That and by being so reliant on vaccines, we are forcing viruses to adapt far quicker. It makes me shutter to think of what new strands will be around within the next decade.

  7. Natasha Avatar

    Hey Wellnessmama – Could you do a post about this year’s flu shot and your recommendations/any updates that are relevant?

    Thanks,

    N

  8. Donna Fountaine Avatar
    Donna Fountaine

    When I was pregnant with my first child every flu shot insert said, “no adequate and well-controlled studies in pregnant women” and “should be given to a pregnant woman only if clearly needed,” so I opted not to get it even though “they” said I should. The last time I received the flu shot l actually got the flu twice that season, so I don’t bother getting it anymore. Dr. Sear’s The Vaccine Book is an excellent source of information on childhood vaccines, and I highly recommend it.

  9. Cristy Avatar

    Thank you for sharing wellness mama. Like the others have said it is a heated topic and people get so caught up on trying to change others opinions. I believe you write to those who seek a healthier life, not to those who don’t care and can’t believe people “like us” take health this far. You are writing and teaching us. Not them. Don’t hold back your opinions and findings, each post you write saves lives! Think about that. Your opinion on vaccines may save a life. .. So don’t hold back because of the fear of what others might say or the “category” they might put you in. Don’t focus on them, focus on us, your loyal readers who are attempting home made toothpaste, wearing orange glasses at night, and buying Salt lamps off of amazon. Write for us not for them =) you can handle their opinions or “backlash”, it’s just words. .., and you’re a strong momma, you can do this.

  10. Carrie Avatar

    This is always a descision that requires much thought. The ingredients in vaccines are a concern, especially in children. I have often wondered if it is a combination of the vaccines with the exposure to chemicals we expose ourselves to everyday which causes some of the problems. In adults I have found it comes down to which risk is worse. My own father has severe health issues and one bought of the flu could be a death sentence. Fortunately, he has a history of tolerating vaccines well. So many have not been as fortunate.

  11. Amy Avatar

    So our pediatrician told us that there is more mercury in a can of tuna than in a flu shot what are y’all’s thoughts on this? I would love to get a yes I get it or no I don’t get it from the wellness mama

    1. Missy G Avatar

      I’ve heard that argument also. But big difference between ingesting Mercury and injecting Mercury …

    2. Mary Avatar

      You should get a new doctor. Ingesting and injecting are two different things. Seriously, please simply ask your doctor for the product insert before you vaccinate, educate yourself on what each ingredient is, decide if the myriad side effects of the numerous vaccines are worth whatever “immunity” we are told will occur. Every parent must take the time to research this topic- and be secure and strong with their educated decision. Don’t live in fear.

      1. Anne Avatar

        Just a clarification on thimerosal…

        Thimerosal is an ethyl mercury which is different from the type of mercury we are most familiar with, which is methyl mercury. Methyl mercury is an organic compound of mercury; mercury’s organic compounds are the most toxic to humans. When we think of the mercury that naturally accumulates in fish, such as tuna, it is most often methyl mercury.

        According to the World Health Organization (WHO), ethyl mercury has a shorter half life in the body (less than one week) than methyl mercury (1.5 months) and is excreted through the gut, unlike methyl mercury. The methyl mercury that is consumed through our seafood sources is more easily absorbed and stays in the body longer, making it much more toxic than the very tiny amount of ethyl mercury used in some vaccines.

        Also, keep in mind thimerosal was removed from all childhood vaccines in 1999.

  12. Kate Avatar

    Would also love to hear your thoughts on vaccines. If you do an email, please also add me to the list. Love your writiting and thoughts!

  13. Green Avatar

    I would also like to know your personal stance on well child vaccinations, Katie. Did you vaccinate all your children? Will you vaccinate your new little one? My children are grown now so my concern is about my grandchildren. Thanks!

    1. Wellness Mama Avatar

      This is a topic I’ve debated writing about so much but have always hesitated because I’ve seen the backlash other bloggers have gotten, no matter which side of the issue they write from. It is something I might write about in the future in more detail,but for now will say that with the history of egg allergies and autoimmune disease on both sides of our family, it is something I have researched extensively and approach cautiously.

      1. Kellie Avatar

        I would love to hear your opinion also Katie though totally understand your reservations. You write so well on so many issues and have found so many of your posts really helpful. I live in the UK and have just had my first baby. Myself and my family have been on a bit of a road to understanding and health over the last few years, completely changing the way we eat and removing huge amounts of toxins from our lives. When I became pregnant my mum started researching vaccines and was alarmed at what she found and felt compelled to tell me. Ive found it an incredibly hard decision but so far rejected the first set of vaccines that they suggest here in the UK. I am doing my best to give my son the best immune system I can through my diet and I haven’t been ill since before becoming pregnant and so far at 11 weeks he is healthy and happy. I feel like it is a really hard decision and not one I have shared with any friends for fear of backlash.
        If you did decide to do an email then I would love to be included. Thanks so much. It’s also reassuring to hear so many people struggling with the same decision that we are, it’s easy to feel very alone on this topic. My thoughts go out to all those living in California where you have lost the right to choose. This alone makes me skeptical over motives for these vaccines.

      2. Michelle Avatar
        Michelle

        Dear Katie, Thanks so much for your willingness to step out about this issue. You have always done such a great job presenting facts and research and doing your best to leave it at just that. I have referred so many people to your blog and have personally benefitted from so many articles here! I totally understand your hesitancy to blog on this topic. Though I am not a blogger, I have seen the backlash that almost every blogger gets as a result! I personally fall into the category of non-vaxxer, but only do so after having done extensive research on disease (incubation, symptoms, treatment, etc..) and trying to keep myself informed on ways to promote wellness naturally and build my kids’ immune systems naturally. If you ever do decide to write on vaccinations, I have an idea for an approach that I feel is much needed in the natural health world on this issue. I feel there is a need to write about the responsibility of being a non-vaxxer and the ramifications that it leads to. Some topics that I feel are needed to explore and bring to light are the ramifications of intentional exposure to disease (like chicken pox, measles, rubella) – aka being willing to quarantine your entire family for an very extended period of time due to the long incubation process, as well as the need for adults exposed to the family to get their titers checked so if they aren’t in the immune range, they aren’t inadvertently spreading things during the prodromal stage like chicken pox or rubella to pregnant mothers in first trimester or immune-suppressed people that might be at church, in doctor’s offices, or in the general public. Another topic would be having a plan for what to do if your child does get a disease that can be spread – ie. having a doctor in place that supports your choices and would be willing to do phone consults or home visits in case the need arises (so you don’t expose the public, who even though they are vaccinated, are often more susceptible to these illness:(; exploring the option of homeopathy as a treatment method, and even better, homeoprophylaxis as a natural preventative method. Another topic would be to address the importance of education of the non-vaxxing parent – ie. knowing all the common diseases that are still alive and well and contagious and the symptoms, incubation period, treatment plans, BEFORE your children would ever contract them so you are prepared with what to do in the event they do contract them. On the same thread, yet another topic would be to encourage non-vaxxing parents to be vigilant about the seemingly “minor” illnesses that could be symptoms of early chicken pox, measles, meningitis, rubella etc… so as not to expose pregnant mothers in first or last trimester and immune-suppressed individuals, and also to encourage them in ways to treat these colds, coughs, fevers, and rashes at home so as not to run to the doctor and potentially expose more people there. As a momma of many who did not get chicken pox as a child (even after being naturally exposed by my own siblings 3 TIMES), and then got my titers tested and found them to be negative, I had to be particularly vigilant when pregnant to avoid exposure, especially because many of my friends are non-vaxxers and open to getting chicken pox. I was open to get CP as an adult and did end up getting it simultaneously with them during a safe time in my fertility cycle. Thanks to homeopathy (and my amazing homeopath) and understanding the illness and natural treatment plan for it, it was a smooth experience, but caused me to reflect even more on the ramifications and weighty responsibility of being a non-vaxxer. (We ended up having to quarantine all of our family in stages, except my husband (since he’d had it as a child) for a month and a half because we ended up getting CP at different stages in the incubation period!) Don’t get me wrong, because I am all for being a non-vaxxer and contracting diseases naturally, but it is a very weighty responsibility and should not be taken lightly or without being educated on disease, incubation, treatment, etc… I have come to see why healthcare practitioners are so hesitant about the “trend” to not vaccinate, and having grown up overseas, I’ve seen first hand the ramifications of not having vaccines available, BUT I have also seen and heard many many tragic consequences of the pro-vax movement and fully understand that part of the reason non-vaxxers need to be so vigilant and take this responsibility with great care is that vaccinations are not fully efficacious, therefore many adults are walking around with the potential to contract these diseases that they think they are vaccinated against, and as a result of being vaccinated, some have unknowingly weakened immune systems that open them up not only to contracting these diseases, but having chronic health issues as a result. The medical world would say quickly to this:”That’s why we need to have 100% vaccine rates and promote ‘herd immunity’”, but clearly that is not the answer either. All it takes is pointing to the increase in chronic illness since mass vaccines have been promoted and increasingly used:( Anyways, I will get off my soapbox, but wanted to encourage you Katie that if you ever do choose to blog about this issue, I think that discussion about the weighty responsibility of non-vaxxing is a needed approach, and I have yet to come across it on any natural health blog. Thanks for all you do!

        1. Wellness Mama Avatar

          Thanks for the suggestion. I agree that those aspects are often not discussed enough and will definitely keep them in mind if/when I write about this issue in the future…

  14. Heidi Avatar

    I was just wondering if anyone knows the percentage of each harmful ingredient in the vaccine? (Formaldehyde, aluminum, etc) I know each vaccine has different amounts but maybe someone has made a list?

  15. Miki Avatar

    all preganant ladies no flu shots! I was pregnant, got a flu shot and a month later I misscarried. It was proven it was due to vaccine.

  16. Jess Avatar

    Hi Katie,

    I would like to respectfully second Lisa’s request for your opinion on vaccines in general. I totally understand your concern as a public figure. I teach at a university in California where SB277 just passed and we lost the right to choose whether or not to vaccinate our children. I have not gone “public” about my family’s vaccination status, but I have considered “coming out” as vehemently opposed to the bill. Unfortunately, it is not seen as a personal choice by those who believe that vaccines are safe and effective (the herd immunity argument), so to oppose the bill requires questioning that strongly, widely held belief.

    Losing the choice in California has made me even more skeptical of big pharma. When I consider The National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 https://www.nvic.org/injury-compensation/origihanlaw.aspx that protects vaccine manufacturers from liability alongside the new laws in California that require even Hep B and chicken pox vaccines, and state that they can add whichever vaccines they want in the future, I am even more fearful. How many more will they be able to add? If no philosophical exemptions are allowed, then the vaccine manufacturers need not answer to anyone. They’ve yet to do proper studies, and with these new laws, why would they?

    I am not fixed in my stance on vaccines. I am always looking for more information. I honestly wish someone would show me some study or other information about vaccines that would make me feel safer. It would make my life so much easier. Katie, I think you are such a valuable resource, a woman with great integrity who does rigorous work that benefits so many mothers. This is so rare in the blogosphere, and I can only imagine how complex it is to navigate that world. I hope you will “come out” at some point, whatever your current choices. I hear there are laws being written in several states, and I have a feeling that homeschooling co-ops may be the only way to continue to have agency over what goes into our kids’ bodies.

    I would also like to second what Laura Ann said, “If you ever decide to do an email to interested folks on what you decided and resources you used to decide, please include my email on that list! ?” I have collected what I feel is the “best of the best” of info on this subject and would love to both share it AND have it challenged!

    All my best,
    Jess

  17. Gia Avatar

    Has there been any opinion on here about vaccines? I too, would love and appreciate an opinion. My son is three and vaccinated, we spaced them out. Now, my 6 month old daughter is also (so far) on the same track. I am literally losing sleep over this. So much of my belief system is skeptical with big pharma, the fda, etc. However, I want so badly to believe that their are some brilliant doctors and scientists creating vaccines for our children because they are life saving. Although side effects can happen, this is with everything. Although I don’t do medicine unless it’s a last resort, even tylenol can have horrible effects for the wrong person. I also know of one little girl that passed away from meningitis who was not vaccinated. It is seriously the HARDEST thing to come to terms with because there are SO many articles arguing great points on either side. As a parent, this is the worst.

    1. Jess Avatar

      Hi Gia,

      I, too, am losing sleep over this. I live in California where we just lost the right to choose.

  18. Lisa Avatar

    Katie,
    I understand this is a sensitive topic, but I see numerous people have asked you about your views on vaccines. I think we all respect you & show our support and that it would be nice to hear what you have to say.

    Graciously,
    Lisa

  19. Rachael Avatar

    Hello Wellness Mama, Thank you for your post. I love listening to your podcasts as well. I also studied both sides of the flu shot and came to the conclusion that for me, it was better to strengthen my immune system through natural ways then take the drug and ingest many harmful chemicals.

    I run into this dilemma however, I work in healthcare and for my facility it is mandated to work unless I receive a medial exception. I have some sensitivities but it is not enough for a Dr. to write me a exemption.

    I was hoping for some ideas as to how to strengthen my immune system before and after the shot to hopefully minimize the affect of the chemicals going in, OR any other exemption ideas.

    Does anyone else have this problem in their workplace?

    1. Kelly Link Avatar
      Kelly Link

      I’m facing the same situation as a healthcare worker. So frustrating and confusing.

  20. Laura Avatar

    Ja I’ve never bothered with flu shots seeing as it just makes no sense to get them.
    U see as a child I just was almost never sick and as an adult I’m still pretty much the same.
    I’ve noticed that my husband a very healthy man get’s the shot every year but still gets really sick um…so ja even after taking care of my husband when he is sick I’ve never gotten sick.
    I mean we have the occasional sore throat or cough but nothing really bad.
    I don’t feel the shot does much of anything sorry even my kids don’t get shots or get really sick.
    All we do every year is drink elder syrup 2 times every day, get sleep, eat well, avoid over crowded places if possible and wash/keep hands clean. So far I know that’s a lot of trouble but so far it works for us.
    I really enjoyed the post it was a good read ty. ^_^

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